Yeah… the fictional opposing propaganda can be tiresome.
My response to this is always “I can’t tell from the writings of the early church fathers, who didn’t mention anyone else.”
…not in Rome…
Oh. yeah, I love this one too.
My response: Really? Then why does history tell us that he died there and why are his bones still there to this day?
where does it say Catholic." file.
That would be in Acts 9:31 in the Greek, which reads. http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/~fisher/tmpdir/gnt/050931.gif
The words ekkelsia kath olos is indeed “Catholic Church” and in most translations is rendered “the church throughout all”, which a good definition of “universal church”.
I also get a plethora of different dates and eras that they believe that the Catholic Church was founded, sometimes followed by the apostasy date as well. "The Church was pure until Constantine, and then suddenly “corrupt” bishops founded the Catholic Church during a council in Nicaea. After that “real” Christians had to go underground
"Another historical fiction which completely ignores that the writings of Polycarp, Ignatius of Antioch, and the Didache are definitively Catholic and make no bones about being so. Polycarp was infant baptized, and Ignatius not only calls the church by the name Catholic Church, but makes it plain that anyone who denies the Eucharistic Real Presence is a heretic to be avoided. ALL of them preceded the 4th century, and none of that changed post Nicaea.
For the most part over the last six months of so I have just given up. It is difficult to evangelize to those who are poisoned with revisionary history. Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts or suggestions.
I understand. However, one of the best things to do is simply bathe those opponents in prayer. I use the Rosary and the Divine Mercy Chaplet and have had a great many of answers to them.
Also, in real life, I don’t waste my time on those who are stiff necked and just want to argue. I briefly summarize my points and then just walk away just as Our Lord said to do, and the apostles obeyed.
Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words: going forth out of that house or city shake off the dust from your feet.
Mark 6:1 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you; going forth from thence, shake off the dust from your feet for a testimony to them.
Luke 9:5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off even the dust of your feet, for a testimony against them.
Acts Of Apostles 13:51 But they, shaking off the dust of their feet against them, came to Iconium.