[quote="Julia_Mae, post:2, topic:301851"]
I'd like to turn this around a little. Let's restate that Jesus will always be in the Church. So, we look at the Gospels and see Jesus at table with sinners, thieves and prostitutes. He even seeks out such people, He has come to a call them. People are so shocked by the ones He associates with, the family comes running to see if he has gone mad.
Finding terrible people within the Church is going to be pretty much expected. But speaking in historical context: do you really think people need religion for an excuse to commit terrible atrocities? With no religion, they'd find some other excuse, like WMDs.
Then I have to ask if you are familiar with the terrible atrocities committed against Christians simply because they were/are Christians? Not just through history, but right now. Also, when you do look at this history, do you also know of the great good done by people in the Church? Are you familiar with priests dying to protect their flocks, nuns raped and murdered, Christians just slaughtered in wholesale lots?
If we think about all of these things what we come to is: the Church is just like the world. Except for Jesus being here, the Holy Spirit being here...
The gates of Hell is annihilation, death. And we will not die. So, how is it different inside the Church than out if horrible people and things still happen? What difference does it make if Jesus is here?
We get saved. And I don't mean in some semi-Pentacostal blow-dried TV pastor sense of the word. I mean saved, changed, healed, brought to joy. And we so don't deserve it. And the horrible become only awful and the awful become only irritating and the irritating are neutral and... and how many people would have died alone and unloved without Mother Theresa? She didn't do it, she had no power. Jesus did it.
I'm sorry you got hurt. But the cRCC, that corporate body, is not the Church. Jesus Christ is the Church. And being mad at the Church makes perfect sense to me. But Jesus is still here, still waiting for you, still beside you, still wanting to heal you. The Gates of Hell cannot prevail, because He will not leave us.
You find every bad thing outside the Church, inside the Church. But you can find nothing of the Good inside the Church, elsewhere.
:thumbsup: As Beethoven said, from the heart to the heart! :)