Um… Excuse me? So called “goth” christian over here. :shrug:
When I saw this thread I twitched a little, but I came in expecting people to be more open minded, and less crazy sounding…
But then I see all the posts are totally… Guh.
You know, I was homeschooled, and forced to attend classes at a Christian co-op. A fundamentalist, protestant, Christian co-op.
I remember these people would insult my friends and I.
I remember a close friend of mine being told “NO, you’re not supposed to wear clothing like that here”
Yeah. She was wearing a t-shirt, and a pair of tripp pants.
As in, something akin to these:
Random pair taken off of photobucket, but hey, ya know.
Apparently those aren’t allowed in a Church. Well, that shows the world how open and loving we Christians are. :shrug:
And you know, I could understand some offense and attending church in those, yes. I would find it better to wear you nice “sunday best” when attending church… But this was different. This girl was insulted for wearing these when she was attending a CLASS that was being hosted at said church. A class that had little to do with the church itself.
I own about three pairs of these myself. They’re comfy. And rather spiffy looking in my opinion.
Look, can someone, aaaaanyone here at all give me a good reason why we’re judging someone based on clothing choices?
As for the subculture itself: No. Just no. We don’t all worship Satan and attend black mass and all that crazy ****. Occult imagery? Uh huh. Well, I generally just wear crosses and cameos.
As for embracing death? Well, yes, there is a flair to the macabre here. But usually not to unhealthy levels. (Don’t bring the emo cutters into this. “emo” and “gothic” are too different things. And emo kids? Mostly confused, moody, and frustrated. And not that big a portion of them cut. Certainly no bigger a portion then the non “emo” children who do. Infact. I’ve never met any who’ve cut themselves. All my friends with a history of cutting are fairly “normal” in their choices of apparel.)
Anywho, death, yes… I simply accept death as being a part of life. As for it’s relationship to anything “goth”… Heh, period mourning clothing? Victorian era? That stuff is goooorgeous.
“She doesn’t wear ‘studs’ or anything satanic”
So… Wait, are studs in the same category as satanic to you? Whaaaaaat? D:
Also, what’s all this talk of indecency? Sure, I suppose I wear corsets… But I wear them with floor length skirts and blouses. Yeah. That sure is indecent and sexualized.
You know, at that note, I’m reminded by the EGL subculture… So many people have preconceived notions of “sexy EGL”, etc… When in reality, real, true, EGL clothing is very modest. Such as fanplusfriend.com/servlet/the-547/Elegant-Gothic-lolita-mult-dsh-layers/Detail
See, that ain’t “sexy”. It’s beautiful. Beauty without showing a lot of skin. What a concept.
You know, with this whole “gothic subculture”… That’s a huuuuge window of various sub-sub-cultures you’re opening up. Some of us have our street clothes, casual, baggy, black… While some of us wear period clothing.
Me, I tend to swing between steampunk and goth with my fashion sense, depending on the mood I’m in.
Last month I walked out of the house with a cane, a top hat, goggles, a red coat with lace frills, black pants with chains, and combat boots. And not one thought was given to this.
All in all: It’s clothing. Sure, a lot of us “goths” bond over similar interests, but really…
It doesn’t conflict with a Christian “lifestyle” any more than anything else does. What are we saying IS a Christian lifestyle? Are we supposed to be like my old fundi protestant school, where everything is evil if you’re not wearing a bug poofy sweater with a kitten embroidered on it?
Aaaaaand now I feel like I’ve ranted long enough…
But I still don’t get it. I expected so much better from this thread. You people are Catholic. You’re supposed to have more common sense than the protestant fundis I got stuck with when I was young.
I guess I’m just disappointed.