The Holy Trinity:The Son


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since God is made up of the Holy Trinity how did Jesus(The Son) excist in the Trinity in the beginning?


#2

Catechism of the Catholic Church:

240 Jesus revealed that God is Father in an unheard-of sense: he is Father not only in being Creator; he is eternally Father by his relationship to his only Son who, reciprocally, is Son only in relation to his Father: “No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”[64]

241 For this reason the apostles confess Jesus to be the Word: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”; as “the image of the invisible God”; as the “radiance of the glory of God and the very stamp of his nature”.[65]

242 Following this apostolic tradition, the Church confessed at the first ecumenical council at Nicaea (325) that the Son is “consubstantial” with the Father, that is, one only God with him.[66] The second ecumenical council, held at Constantinople in 381, kept this expression in its formulation of the Nicene Creed and confessed "the only- begotten Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, light from light, true God from true God, begotten not made, consubstantial with the Father


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Catechism of the Catholic Church:

The dogma of the Holy Trinity

253 The Trinity is One. We do not confess three Gods, but one God in three persons, the “consubstantial Trinity”.[83] The divine persons do not share the one divinity among themselves but each of them is God whole and entire: “The Father is that which the Son is, the Son that which the Father is, the Father and the Son that which the Holy Spirit is, i.e. by nature one God.”[84] In the words of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), “Each of the persons is that supreme reality, viz., the divine substance, essence or nature.”[85]

254 The divine persons are really distinct from one another. “God is one but not solitary.”[86] “Father”, “Son”, “Holy Spirit” are not simply names designating modalities of the divine being, for they are really distinct from one another: “He is not the Father who is the Son, nor is the Son he who is the Father, nor is the Holy Spirit he who is the Father or the Son.”[87] They are distinct from one another in their relations of origin: “It is the Father who generates, the Son who is begotten, and the Holy Spirit who proceeds.”[88] The divine Unity is Triune.

255 The divine persons are relative to one another. Because it does not divide the divine unity, the real distinction of the persons from one another resides solely in the relationships which relate them to one another: “In the relational names of the persons the Father is related to the Son, the Son to the Father, and the Holy Spirit to both. While they are called three persons in view of their relations, we believe in one nature or substance.”[89] Indeed “everything (in them) is one where there is no opposition of relationship.”[90] “Because of that unity the Father is wholly in the Son and wholly in the Holy Spirit; the Son is wholly in the Father and wholly in the Holy Spirit; the Holy Spirit is wholly in the Father and wholly in the Son.”[91]


#4

since God is made up of the Holy Trinity how did Jesus(The Son) excist in the Trinity in the beginning?

Because our puny little brains can only think in terms of time and space. God is outside of both. With Him, there is no beginning, and no end.

The Mass brings together heaven and earth. I read Scott Hahns’ book “The Lambs’ Supper” (or was it the Supper of the Lamb?). The Mass just blows my mind.

kepha1


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[quote=chb03c]since God is made up of the Holy Trinity how did Jesus(The Son) excist in the Trinity in the beginning?
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eternally begotten


#6

He has no beginning and no end.


#7

Thank you everyone for you replies


#8

It is God’s nature to exist as a family. He has always existed that way - as Father, Son and Holy Spirit.


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[quote=chb03c]since God is made up of the Holy Trinity how did Jesus(The Son) excist in the Trinity in the beginning?
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He existed the same as he does now. He has been since all eternity the same and he has not changed.


#10

The Son existed as He has always existed, in the infinite bliss and love relationships of the Divine Persons of the Blessed Trinity. Did not Jesus say that before Abraham was, I AM?

Gerry :slight_smile:


#11

[quote=chb03c]since God is made up of the Holy Trinity how did Jesus(The Son) excist in the Trinity in the beginning?
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Hi chb03,
Tough one, Will, Word, Spirit. God in Jesus, Jesus in God, you in Him and He in you with the indwelling Holy Spirit, all One.
Christ be with you
walk in love
edwinG


#12

[quote=chb03c]since God is made up of the Holy Trinity how did Jesus(The Son) excist in the Trinity in the beginning?
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The Father Wills what the Word forms, what is formed unites to God by the power of the Holy Spirit.


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