The horrific toll of America's heroin 'epidemic'


#21

Actually they do use banks, lots of them, to “launder” their money through. They also use false corporations and business to accomplish this. Having worked in banking for a short three years I can tell you they also deposit cash, and yes directly into personal accounts as well as bogus business accounts to keep their cash flow going, useable and well accounted for.

And in addition, if you want to know how a lot of the drugs get into this country just join the military…any branch. Plenty gets into this country this way because frankly they are viewed as “above suspicion” and use that fact to transport the stuff in bulk. If we want to stop illegal importation of drugs into this country we have to be wise enough to accept the fact that there are a multitude of big players out there involved in this.

Everybody finds it easy to pay attention to the petty thief on the streets and seems to forget about corporate raider (biggest thieves on the planet), dummy corporations, government officials using their position as a “hiding place” to rob the country dry. It is naive to believe for one minute the banking industry is not a shady bunch to deal with or that no drug money passes through their hands. It does, and lots of it.


#22

Interesting, The CIA was PROVEN to be directly involved in the drug trade back in the 1970s, If I was a betting guy, I would bet money they are still involved, probably much more so today versus the 70s!

I would not be surprised if they intentionally send lower grade shipments thru the border, in hopes of it getting caught, just as a deterrent to how they are truly getting the bulk of it in, like you said, Id also bet the military transports are used heavily, and probably some ingenious ways we would probably not even guess about.


#23

You have it right. If we really want to stop the drug trade we need to stop picking out the “little guy” and go for the larger fish in the pond.


#24

You would think by now, having gone thru this for years now, law enforcement would recognize this, but it seems they have not and continue on doing the same exact thing expecting different results!!! LOL

If you look up the definition of the word insanity, it is literally doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result…I wonder why no one has informed law enforcement about their methods…are they truly that ignorant not to realize? lol


#25

Naw! They know it, and well, too many are part of it. It’s called “job security.” If the problem continues your job is required. If you solve it, well you have to figure out what else to do. Sure, there are lots of serious law enforcement officials out there who really want to stop the problem. Sadly they are not the ones generally in charge of anything.


#26

Thats the main problem with law enforcement in general…they are not really in the business of protecting and serving the public, they are more concerned with keeping revenue coming in, from speeding and other types of citations, keeping arresting people, and pushing them into the for profit prison system, let out, only to keep the cycle going over and over!!! This is utterly ridiculous!

If any agency needs a major overhaul, it is law enforcement.

I think this topic needs to be brought up to those in charge, You simply cannot keep law enforcement officials enforcing the same exact laws year after year, when they know they are not working to solve the problem…why does more of the public not recognize this and complain? Eventually, I would think people would stand up and demand they create laws that actually do solve the problem and not just keep the cycle going. LOL

I have really lost alot of respect for law enforcement and the US in general, It is definitely all about the money here…If I was in a financial position to leave, I would be gone tomorrow to a better country, I like Portugal and how they operate, but I dont like the cold, so maybe French Polynesia ( if I could afford $$$!!!)


#27

Have to say I know the feeling. And how would it be so hard to enforce better and more effective laws? Put some of this stuff up to the voters to decide and watch the laws change. As it is there is constant inconsistency, the poor get worse sentences than the rich, too many people are made examples enough and too many get out to offend again.
I saw a show on the Russian Prison System. Some of their methods looked good to me. They were clean for one thing, and when a guard said move, sit or stand the prisoner did just that. Here the prisoners seem to run the show.


#28

baltimoresun.com/ph-ac-cn-heroin-bust-update-0228-20160228-story.html#nt=simple-embed

businessinsider.com/opioid-and-heroin-epidemic-is-changing-pain-treatment-2016-2

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4 Heroin Overdoses In Beltrami County In 1 Day**
By The Associated Press February 29, 2016 10:03 AM
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4 heroin overdoses, one fatality, just in one largely rural county.

Had to bump this, that is a real problem.


#29

Why not start a new thread?

It doesn’t surprise me one bit. I used to work in the EMS field for years and this was routine.
There wasn’t a week that went by without encountering someone who overdosed on Heroin or prescription pain meds.

There wasn’t a week that went by where I wasn’t transporting someone from the ER to a dual diagnosis facility because they suffered from both addiction and a psych issue as well.

If I ever encountered an unconscious patient who was relatively young (under 50 or so)…you’d just assume it was because of heroin.
And we were usually right.

I used to get annoyed listening to drug treatment specialists who would come to our station and eventually when I was back in school and give talks about the drug epidemic.
They’d talk about Meth and Cocaine and other drugs you’d see out west. Heroin was always the problem here.

It’s been a massive problem in New England for almost 15 years at this point.


#30

Exactly!
My brother is in Wilmington, Del. and last year and the authorities celebrated their supposed victory over opioid abuse. Of course everyone just switched to heroin.

Personally, I think it would have been better for these people to abuse prescription drugs, which are at least made in controlled labs and manufacturing plants by legit companies, but with Heroin, no one knows what its cut with or what environment it was processed in, so they are trusting the dealer they buy it from! Point is, this is going to cause more problems than these people abusing painkillers!

Quite so.
It might help if doctors were better trained to spot abuse and addiction. Maybe it would help to take blood levels to see if the patient has taken more than the prescribed dose.

One thing, when opioids were introduced big drug companies advertised them as non-addictive, not unlike tobacco companies claiming cigarettes don’t cause cancer.

I think Law enforcement would be** better off just using this money on something else**, as they are fighting a loosing battle with Heroin and have the state Govt to thank for this, they recognize it too! There is more Heroin coming into the US right now than at ANYTIME in history!

Never. Gonna. Happen.
There is a whole Drug War industrial complex that profits from keeping things the way they are.


#31

Why have a thread on one specific county or city when it is nationwide, might as well add on to the original post.


#32

It has seemed to me that there are big differences in people when it comes to addiction potential. And, while psychology has a role in it, I think the biggest differences are physical and inherent to the person.

I have, for example, always believed I have a potential for alcohol addiction. There is a big family history of it. Our ethnicity is troubling. (Irish) I have what’s called the “wash down reflex” that some researchers think is related to alcoholism and prevails among people of Celtic ancestry worldwide. I have that “instant super- high” from the first drink, followed by a follow-on “body thirst” that calls for more.

So, while I might have a drink every few months or so, I have largely avoided alcohol consumption throughout my life, because I consider myself a “potential alcoholic” who only requires sufficient consumption and/or brain change to become addicted.

So, why am I not a full-blown alcoholic, despite every risk factor I know? Because I fear it. I fear it to the point of having been very careful of it early in my life when it would make more difference than it would now. One’s brain receptors do change with addictive substances, and the younger one is, the quicker and more profound are the changes.

So, why do people not fear things everyone knows are addictive, with sufficient fear to make them refrain from it altogether? For those who were introduced to, say, opiates medically, it’s one thing. For those who get on drugs without that, my guess it’s either a sort of fatalism or insufficient fear.

But again, some, I believe, undergo changes more readily than others. And possibly it’s the knowledge that some are little affected that causes others to take the chance.

Regardless, young people in particular should be put in mighty fear of addictive substances, at all stages of growing up.


#33

I have a sneaky feeling this was the intended outcome.

LE and cartels were not making much money when everyone was abusing legally available prescription opiates, if they went doctor shopping, they were content with their supply of Oxycontin, Opana, Oxycodone, etc they did not need to buy heroin, and if you had insurance, you could get a months supply of opiates for $10.!!!

The cartels managed to ‘ensure’ the pharmaceutical companies customers switch to their product (with the assistance of US lawmakers Im sure). This heroin problem really does benefit a handful of agencies, the cartels especially ( who are making enough off the poppie plant to fill entire rooms floor to ceiling with cash), and Mexico in general too, MUCH more money coming in from the US, more jobs in the industry.

Its a win win, except for the end user/addict.And I guess big pharam companies got screwed out of their opiate profits by these new laws.(yet they didnt even try to fight them???) Maybe they have a medication in the pipeline for heroin rehab which they know will skyrocket soon in about a decade.


#34

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