The importance of immigration


#163

Where did you get the idea that the Attorney General was ever in favor of slavery?


#164

I did not say he was, nor do I think he is.


#165

First, it was Jesus, not Matthew, who spoke those words. Second, there is zero connection between what Jesus said and refugees, or the UN. The word Jesus used was “stranger.” Third, food and water was only the first two of five responses of charity.


#166

Here is an interview on FOX and friends where the President says he will not sign a moderate compromise immigration bill, while earlier in the interview he blamed the Democrats and said they could change the law any day they wanted. (He had promised a few months ago he would sign any reform bill, btw) Surely his associatess have explained how the government works enough so he would know that these two things are contradictory. He cannot blame the Democrats for not changing immigration while at the same time saying he won’t sign the bill. Also, hasn’t anyone pointed out that the Congress right now is Republican, or that he is the president? He can decline to enforce sanctions on Russian, but feels he must enforce sanctions on children?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCVSx_4V0wo

May the Holy Innocents pray for our calloused country and its leader.


#167

Getting back to this for the moment:

According to this, they’re not really in cages; that’s just the media narrative to make Trump look bad:

https://www.facebook.com/foxandfriends/videos/vb.111938618893743/1841604022593852/?type=2&theater


#168

What point were you making?
We provide both food and shelter to all flavors of ‘stranger’, both refugee and illegal immigrants


#169

(sigh) Have you ever read Matthew 25? It does not say, “I was a stranger and you fed me.” I do not know how to explain it clear than Jesus, and it is His point, not mine.


#170

Right, we feed all strangers, why do you imply otherwise.


#171

You’re going to have to come up with a more objective and credible source than a CIS mouthpiece speaking on Fox News.


#172

Because some respond:


#173

sooooo… no Jesus?


#174

You asked why advocates for ??? Immigration are painted as wanting open borders. I found a response by a person who agrees with you that explained why others think that and pointed it out to you. This says nothing about what I think; I was just trying to answer your question.


#175

Not my question, but I get your point. Except that without defining what is meant by “open borders” it is hard to say you are right. I don think anyone advocates for open borders. Welcoming illegal immigrants, say by letting them be legal, is not the same as an open border. It is quite the opposite.


#176

Its certainly different, I don’t know about “opposite”. Welcoming Illegal Aliens puts a value on people’s ability to overstay their tourist or student visas or their ability to sneak across the frontier. An Open Border would put coyotes out of business, as people would just stroll across the border.


#177

When I use the expression “open borders” for what the other side supports, I mean that they in effect support open borders because they don’t support enforcement of our immigration laws.

If you’re just going to look the other way and say “we won’t enforce the laws,” that means in effect that the border is open because we won’t try to stop you.


#179

I thought of this discussion when I saw this. :sunglasses:


#180

In such a definition, I would support open borders, in the same sense I support open driving on the road, meaning, it is a meaningless definition. More accurately, it is a definition that shows a lack of understanding of what law enforcement is, and how laws work.

But then, I never heard your definition before.


#181

Well, if we let anyone in who shows up, what closed about that?


#182

I didn’t say anything about a closed border. I do not think that has been suggested.


#183

The only change from previous policy put forth by George W. Bush and Barack Obama is the new Trump policy that allows parents and children of those illegally immigrating to be separated at the border. This is what has caused the stir. Trump put this policy in place and Trump can take the policy away by merely make a phone call to Jeff Sessions.


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