[quote="Caveman, post:13, topic:204571"]
It never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who rush to defend this type of "Mass". And people wonder why The Church is dying in W. Europe and N. America.
I don't think anyone was defending the Mass per se but questioning the video which definitely appears to have been edited to make +Schonborn look as bad as possible.
Thanks to Hlafdige for providing some actual facts. Other than fire the celebrant as pastor of the Cathedral I'm not sure what the Cardinal's critics expect. My understanding is that liturgical abuse was already rampant in Vienna before Cardinal Schonborn arrived on the scene.
He appears not to be a very good administrator but the same might be said of Cardinal Ratzinger who, as Archbishop of Munich was more interested in academics and left the actual running of the Archdiocese to others.
I do wonder how much power our Bishops have evn though they have the responsibility for what goes on in their dioceses. They can't "fire" their priests except in the most extreme circumstances. If they do try to discipline priests there is the danger that parishioners will rally around the pastor, damaging his authority.
I would encourage everyone to check Fr John Zuhlsdorf's blog: www.wdtprs.com His contention is that change will take time but has begun with the retirement (and dying off) of the "hippie" spirit-of-Vatican II generation and that the Holy Father has taken several steps, especially the motu proprio to bring back the TLM that will have long-term positive consequence. "Brick by brick" as Fr Z puts it.
Sorry to ramble so.