The National Catholic Reporter

As long as you realize that the National Catholic Reporter for the most part presents views that are rejected by Magesterial teaching.

Bishop Helmsing said 44 years ago, the National Catholic Reporter ‘does not reflect the teaching of the Church, but on the contrary, has openly and deliberately opposed this teaching…’ and he asked them to drop ‘Catholic’ from their heading, because 'y retaining it they deceive their Catholic readers and do a great disservice to ecumenism by being responsible for the false irenicism of watering down Catholic teachings.’

I think NCR stands for ‘Not Really Catholic.’

I wouldn’t use the term deceitful. Deceit implies a deliberate intent to mislead. I would say they are misguided in many opinions. I would also say that they spend an awful lot of time tearing down the Church rather than building it up.

Peace,

Is there an answer in there to my question ?


“Previous generations of social experimenters have caused unimaginable misery for millions of people. None of them have ever been held accountable.”

Maybe so, but if these folks are bright enough to put together a periodical, they are plenty bright to know what the magisterium is and how the Church works.

Best wishes!

It’s garbage that you shouldn’t even line your birdcage with because it makes the birds depressed.

Yes, I got that impression from quite a few people here.:slight_smile:

Of course striking the balance lies in discerning what is the truth what is the error and what is a well informed opinion that is neither necessarily truth nor error.

For example, Catholic doctrine teaches us that the goods of the world belong to the people of the world and are not to be exploited by the few to the detriment of the many. These “goods of the world” include health care. That is truth.

Many people (Catholics included) espouse an Ayn Rand type view that greed is good and that my only responsibility is to get as much for me and mine as I can. The poor be damned if they are lacking. That is error.

Well informed people people have opined that government sponsored universal health care is the most just (and therefore most Christian) way of distributing that good for the maximum benefit of all. Other well informed people have opined that the American system of employer based private insurance is more effective and therefore the more just. The two opinions are diametrically opposed. But neither is necessarily “truth” or “error.”

Peace,

And some people are downright communists and don’t like to admit it.

The Bible says the question mark is a dead baby.

For example, Catholic doctrine teaches us that the goods of the world belong to the people of the world and are not to be exploited by the few to the detriment of the many. These “goods of the world” include health care. That is truth.

Many people (Catholics included) espouse an Ayn Rand type view that greed is good and that my only responsibility is to get as much for me and mine as I can. The poor be damned if they are lacking. That is error.

To remedy these wrongs [the shortcomings of capitalism], the socialists, working on the poor man’s envy of the rich, are striving to do away with private property, and contend that individual possessions should become the common property of all, to be administered by the State or by municipal bodies. They hold that by thus transferring property from private individuals to the community, the present mischievous state of things will be set to rights, inasmuch as each citizen will then get his fair share of whatever there is to enjoy. But their contentions are so clearly powerless to end the controversy that were they carried into effect the working man himself would be among the first to suffer. They are, moreover, emphatically unjust, for they would rob the lawful possessor, distort the functions of the State, and create utter confusion in the community.

RERUM NOVARUM
On Capital and Labor
Encyclical of Pope Leo XIII MAY 15, 1891


“If incomes are equalized, they will be equalized at a low level.” – Economist Vilfredo Pareto

The evidence is clear, The National Catholic Reporter is not acceptable reading for Catholics. Period. Church Teaching is Church Teaching and is meant to be upheld. Part of being a Catholic is telling the difference between sources of truth and sources of falsehoods.

Opinions regarding Church teaching can be discussed, but I’m not interested in being an Intellectual Catholic but a Faithful Catholic. That’s why I don’t watch most of what’s on TV or see maybe one or two movies a year.

I work in the media and it’s clear that the Press is against the Church in general on almost any topic you can name. Knowing about a lot of different viewpoints only leads to one conclusion: the media is against Christianity. The TV is no longer a welcome guest and the common character template for almost all media is The Dysfunctionals.

Catch the opening song to Family Guy and listen for “those values on which we used to rely.” Those values are being trashed daily and I monitor all media as part of my job on an almost daily basis and all I get is more of the same.

Wake up, my fellow Catholics. Accept and understand Church teaching, understand what the radicals are up to, and defend Church teaching. And form Catholic communities with those who share your values, including non-Catholic Christians.

Radical Individualism is an option but it leads only to anarchy.

Opinions are generally meaningless. If you have the correct answer, the truth, then there is no other correct answer. There is absolute truth, not the currently marketed: “Life is just shades of grey.”

Peace,
Ed

:thumbsup: and mega kudos.

“Life is just shades of grey.”

Strange you should mention this. I have a friend who is a photographer, and he says that about the contrast in a photograph; but, he also extended it to all of life long before it became the “currently marketed”!


“Previous generations of social experimenters have caused unimaginable misery for millions of people. None of them have ever been held accountable.”

Thank you. That line is being preached in the TV show, Grey’s Anatomy, which, in summary, is mostly about sex.

“Real life only comes in shades of grey.”

Peace,
Ed

Yeah, you really have to separate out John Allen Jr. from the rest of NCReporter. He is one of the most balanced and insightful Catholic reporters (in the true, classical sense of that word) that writes today. Most of the rest is openly hostile to Catholic teaching.

I wish I would have found this thread before I stumbled upon that awful website. Some of the highlights were bashing Archbishop Dolan for his anti-gay support of heterosexual marriage, claiming that artificial abortion was licit before implantation, and some nonsense about female priests. And then pages praises the New Evangelization. :shrug:

When a paper claims to be catholic and undermines the faith at the same time, they are playing the role of Judas Iscariot.

The best approach is to teach our friends this truth so subscriptions to this paper decline. This may require an example that shows clear deviation from the magisterium. Truth with charity will win the day.

catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=38994

NCR editors have written an editorial calling for womens ordination. They have exposed themselves entirely

Give Legal Eagle the credit he is due. He is correct to note that human beings are rarely demons in disguise with no redeeming qualities and that listening to their perspective is a crucial part of witnessing the truth to them.

However, a newspaper isn’t a person. The NCRep is deceitful in that it pretends to be a publication giving the catholic perspective on a variety of news, issues and opinions, when it’s real reason for existence is clearly to be a megaphone used for creating confusion, disunity and chaos in the ranks of the catholic church. Read any 10 opinion pieces NOT by John Allen and you quickly have to realize that the convictions that guide the paper are protestant rather than catholic. If they were intellectually honest, they’d have changed the name to the National Episcopalian Reporter decades ago.

^^This. NCR has dropped the charade and has endorsed open revolt against the Deposit of Faith.

For years I’ve had to endure commentary about how John Allen is the lone shining exception at NCR in spite of the fact that I smelled baloney every time he said something. Can we stop pretending now please?

What does John Allen have to do with this article? :confused:

Is this the first time NCReporter has written an article like this? I feel like they dropped they endorsed open revolt a long time ago. :stuck_out_tongue:

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