The Occult Roots of The Wizard of Oz

I want to share an interesting article on The Wizard of Oz movie.

I’ve changed my opinion on this movie and now side with the author of this article.

In summary, the The Wizard of Oz portrays the doctrine of theosophy, which for me is a polite way of saying the movie is “satanic”.

Theosophy is essentially a modern version of Gnosticism.

The article is very well written. It is lengthy but well worth the read.

vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2282

I would avoid the ads about “Numerolgy” in the article though.

Not to sound Anti-Canadian, but this is where your being a non-American handicaps your understanding. Originally, the Wizard of Oz is an allegorical satire on the American political and social scene of the late 19th century. At least, that is what is taught in both college and high school U.S. History courses.

I partially read the article you point to. It’s full of a lot of spin. The thing about allegory is that it can be spun in several directions. However, interpreting allegory requires knoweldge. In this situation, understanding the U.S. History of the late 19th Century is necessary to understand the allegory of the Wizard of Oz.

Also, it is necessary to understand the political ideology of both writers. Baum was a leftist of the time (a Populist). The “Vigilant Citizen” appears to be a rightist. Take into consideration that the “Vigilant Citizen” might be trying to discredit the writings of his political opponents.

If I remember correct:
[LIST]
*]Wicked Witch of the East = Eastern Bankers and Barrons of Industry.
*]Wicked Witch of the West=Western Bankers and precious metal speculators.
*]Cowardly Lion=Williams Jennings Bryant, the great Democratic/Populist Politician who was a pacificist.
*]The Tin Man=the factory workers who had been worked out of their humanity.
*]The Scarecrow=farmers.
*]The Yellow Brick Road=the gold standard.
*]Dorothy’s silver slippers (they’re silver in the book)=the devaluation of the dollar by shifting to Silver standard which the Democratic/Populists, farmers, the working class were advocating.
*]The Emerald City= the U.S. Dollar representing prosperity.
*]Oz=the abbreviation for ounces.
*]Wizard of Oz=the conversion to cheaper money by adopting the Silver Standard that would bring wider prosperity to the poor and working class.
*]Dorothy is from the Midwest, which was always idealized as the “Heart of America.”
[LIST]
*]Good Witch of the North=Northern Democrats.
*]Good Witch of the South=Southern Democrats and Populists.
[/LIST]
[/LIST]

If someone remembers the rest of the allegory, please jump in.

Personally, I’m more persuaded by the author’s own words (in the introduction to the book) “Modern education includes morality; therefore the modern child seeks only entertainment in its wonder-tales and gladly dispenses with all disagreeable incident. Having this thought in mind, the story of The Wonderful Wizard of Oz was written solely to please the children of today.”

The political interpretations are the ones that I’ve read most often, but most of those (political, spiritual, psychological, etc.) seem to be overstating the case regarding the slender foundations that are present in the books (there are 40 of them, though I’ve only read slightly less than half … I found 18).

That is definitely a conspiracy site. The guy also says that the Episcopalian Cathedral in New York City “is in fact a temple of Neo-Pagan-Bordeline-Satanic-the-Environment-is-more-important-than-human-life beliefs” (emphasis in original). I have trouble taking anything on the site seriously.

[quote="Dominic_Brother, post:1, topic:189025"]
I want to share an interesting article on The Wizard of Oz movie.

I've changed my opinion on this movie and now side with the author of this article.

In summary, the The Wizard of Oz portrays the doctrine of theosophy, which for me is a polite way of saying the movie is "satanic".

Theosophy is essentially a modern version of Gnosticism.

The article is very well written. It is lengthy but well worth the read.

vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2282

I would avoid the ads about "Numerolgy" in the article though.

[/quote]

Theologian David Bentley Hart on the Gnostics here:

payingattentiontothesky.com/2010/03/02/the-gnostics/

A very instructive piece and a recommendation for his book which Amazon has deeply discounted now.

dj

Um, if you need to disclose…

[quote=] * Wicked Witch of the East = Eastern Bankers and Barrons of Industry.
* Wicked Witch of the West=Western Bankers and precious metal speculators.
* Cowardly Lion=Williams Jennings Bryant, the great Democratic/Populist Politician who was a pacificist.
* The Tin Man=the factory workers who had been worked out of their humanity.
* The Scarecrow=farmers.
* The Yellow Brick Road=the gold standard.
* Dorothy’s silver slippers (they’re silver in the book)=the devaluation of the dollar by shifting to Silver standard which the Democratic/Populists, farmers, the working class were advocating.
* The Emerald City= the U.S. Dollar representing prosperity.
* Oz=the abbreviation for ounces.
* Wizard of Oz=the conversion to cheaper money by adopting the Silver Standard that would bring wider prosperity to the poor and working class.
* Dorothy is from the Midwest, which was always idealized as the "Heart of America."
o Good Witch of the North=Northern Democrats.
o Good Witch of the South=Southern Democrats and Populists.

[/quote]

…then it’s not that important to the rest of us that don’t have the “code” and we can just enjoy the movie as how it’s marketed: a fun, fantasy! The same logic would apply, say, if the Harry Potter series were ever to have been found to have a similar sinister underlying secretive meaning! (mu-ah-ha-ha) I think the shield of the Holy Spirit is more than sufficient to only let the “fun” movie-ness to be enjoyed without fear of subliminal indoctrination!
So you’re saying we’re not in Kansas, anymore?:smiley:
Peace. CRJ

Yesterday it was Harry Potter is leading people into the occult and today it's The Wizard of Oz.

I wonder when people will realize that it's all just fiction?

I did read some time ago that Baum did have one specific aim in his entertainment books- he wanted the “monster” (the scary witch) to be something that an ordinary child could imagine having power over. The Wicked Witch could not even stand the rigors of an ordinary bath! When I was young it was very normal in our house, if we did not want to take a bath, for my mother to say, “Are you afraid that you will dissolve like the Wicked Witch?”

Djeter, thanks for the link. According to Wikpedia, David Bentley Hart is an Eastern Orthodox theologian, philosopher, writer, and cultural commentator. A very nice read on Gnosticism.

The article makes the following quote “It is through an understanding of the author’s philosophical background and beliefs, however, that the story’s true meaning can be grasped.” L. Frank Baum was the author of the Wizard of Oz.

Beyond a reasonable doubt, Braum, was a Gnostic.

However, it is possible for a Gnostic to write a novel supporting the Christian view of things, but I really doubt that.

I agree with you here, the site is pretty harsh on that cathedral. BUT it appears that church does have a lot of masonic-type symbols.

He first came to my attention for a couple articles in First Things. I especially liked his piece on Tsunami and Theodicy although it earned me a severe rebuke from a bible study member. That is here:

payingattentiontothesky.com/422/tsunami-and-theodicy-by-david-b-hart/

and the whole sad story of Failing Fellowship is located over in the pages section of the blog. I’ve often wondered whether anyone could locate something “eastern orthodox” in that piece (not RCC). If you read it and find something, leave me a comment.

Another great Hart piece was on pornography, which is here:

payingattentiontothesky.com/2009/07/29/the-pornography-culture/

dj

The mans a theologian and a philosopher. Two reasons not to take anything he says serious.

...I'm sorry, but the whole concept of this is just....ridiculous. You can read evil into ANYTHING if you tried hard enough

usccb.org/movies/vaticanfilms.shtml

On the occasion of the 100th anniversary of cinema in 1995, the Vatican compiled this list of “great films.” The 45 movies are divided into three categories: “Religion,” “Values” and “Art.” The USCC classification for each film follows its description

The Wizard of Oz (1939) Dorothy rides her cyclone to the magic land over the rainbow in director Victor Fleming’s classic that skyrocketed Judy Garland’s career and has given generations of families prime entertainment again and again. The 50th anniversary edition has 17 minutes of material not included in the original release. The U.S. Catholic Conference classification is A-II – adults and adolescents. The Motion Picture Association of America rating is G – general audiences. (MGM/UA, $24.98)

I grasped it aloooog time ago. Kids, don’t run away from home, because there’s no place like home. If you do you may get knocked unconscious during a tornado because you were separated from your family,find yourself in a very strange land, meet a real scary, wicked witch, encounter mean & ugly fruit throwing trees, creepy flying monkeys and a grouchy, phony wizard who FINALLY shows you the way home! Yeah, I got that:rolleyes: .

LOL! And here I thought I was just watching a pretty movie and fun characters and a cute little dog!!!

Wow - how mislead I’ve been! :rolleyes:

I guess it’s all about what you do with it - I choose to look at it as entertainment. I don’t appear to be spiritually wounded by seeing this movie countless times in my lifetime.

~Liza

A classic, and rather sad, case of someone really, truly having way too much time on their hands. :rolleyes:

wow…simply wow. does there need to be a witch hunt for every popular fantasy story? it involves imagination and things that are not real therefore is must be satanic, can i get a little logic?

I looked on that site, and it now has zero credibility to me and heres why…

That website says theres occult roots in the wizard of oz, and guess what else?

the site apparently believes some songs of musicians like jay z, lil wayne, rhianna, the black eyed peas, paramore all have mind control or occultic roots. :rolleyes:

Transformers 2, sherlock holmes and pinnochio all apparently have occultic symbolism or theosophy.

and were not done…occult symbolism in coroporate logos how about that!

and last but not least…

The site refers to lady gaga, yes you heard me right, lady gaga! as a puppet of the illuminati…

can we please cease with this ridiculousness?

Seriously, what is the problem with these conspiracy-theorists? They’re going to find theosophical patterns anywhere in the circumstantial evidence if they look hard enough. But then inferring the author’s intent from these patterns is just a result of their own imagination getting the best of their logic. Guess what: this very common error made in human reason is called CONFIRMATION BIAS. Get a grip, man! Some people just have too much time on their hands. :rolleyes:

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