The Pact of Umar - The Laws of Dhimmitude


#1

We hear about the glorious life Dhimmis have under muslim rule. This is the actual pact of Umar, a 7th century ruling on how Dhimmis are to be treated :

The Status of Non-Muslims Under Muslim Rule

After the rapid expansion of the Muslim dominion in the 7th century, Muslims leaders were required to work out a way of dealing with Non-Muslims, who remained in the majority in many areas for centuries. The solution was to develop the notion of the “dhimma”, or “protected person”. The Dhimmi were required to pay an extra tax, but usually they were unmolested. This compares well with the treatment meted out to non-Christians in Christian Europe. The Pact of Umar is supposed to have been the peace accord offered by the Caliph Umar to the Christians of Syria, a “pact” which formed the patter of later interaction.

We heard from 'Abd al-Rahman ibn Ghanam [died 78/697] as follows: When Umar ibn al-Khattab, may God be pleased with him, accorded a peace to the Christians of Syria, we wrote to him as follows:

In the name of God, the Merciful and Compassionate. This is a letter to the servant of God Umar [ibn al-Khattab], Commander of the Faithful, from the Christians of such-and-such a city. When you came against us, we asked you for safe-conduct (aman) for ourselves, our descendants, our property, and the people of our community, and we undertook the following obligations toward you:

**We shall not build, in our cities or in their neighborhood, new monasteries, Churches, convents, or monks’ cells, nor shall we repair, by day or by night, such of them as fall in ruins or are situated in the quarters of the Muslims. **

We shall keep our gates wide open for passersby and travelers.

**We shall give board and lodging to all Muslims who pass our way for three days. **

We shall not give shelter in our churches or in our dwellings to any spy, nor bide him from the Muslims.

We shall not teach the Qur’an to our children.

**We shall not manifest our religion publicly nor convert anyone to it. We shall not prevent any of our kin from entering Islam if they wish it. **

**We shall show respect toward the Muslims, and we shall rise from our seats when they wish to sit. **

We shall not seek to resemble the Muslims by imitating any of their garments, the qalansuwa, the turban, footwear, or the parting of the hair. We shall not speak as they do, nor shall we adopt their kunyas.

**We shall not mount on saddles, nor shall we gird swords nor bear any kind of arms nor carry them on our- persons. **

We shall not engrave Arabic inscriptions on our seals.

We shall not sell fermented drinks.

**We shall clip the fronts of our heads. **

**We shall always dress in the same way wherever we may be, and we shall bind the zunar round our waists **

**We shall not display our crosses or our books in the roads or markets of the Muslims. We shall use only clappers in our churches very softly. We shall not raise our voices when following our dead. We shall not show lights on any of the roads of the Muslims or in their markets. We shall not bury our dead near the Muslims. **

We shall not take slaves who have beenallotted to Muslims.

**We shall not build houses overtopping the houses of the Muslims. **

(When I brought the letter to Umar, may God be pleased with him, he added, “We shall not strike a Muslim.”)

We accept these conditions for ourselves and for the people of our community, and in return we receive safe-conduct.

If we in any way violate these undertakings for which we ourselves stand surety, we forfeit our covenant [dhimma], and we become liable to the penalties for contumacy and sedition.

Umar ibn al-Khittab replied: Sign what they ask, but add two clauses and impose them in addition to those which they have undertaken. They are: “They shall not buy anyone made prisoner by the Muslims,” and “Whoever strikes a Muslim with deliberate intent shall forfeit the protection of this pact.”


A kind and benevolent treatment of non muslims ? I think not.

If we had to implement these kinds of rulings today, the world would scream racism and bigotry and slavery.


#2

For responses please read the following:

Gentiletude and “Dhimmitude”

What would you rather be: Ethnic minority, Gentile, or Dhimmi?


#3

The articles are not relevant.

This topic is discussing religiously sanctioned discrimitation.

It is not to be compared to xenophobia or racial discrimination or anything similar.


#4

[quote=Preacher]For responses please read the following:

Gentiletude and “Dhimmitude”

What would you rather be: Ethnic minority, Gentile, or Dhimmi?
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I checked out your website “Islam is the only solution” and found it full of anti-christian hatred. You call that filth the truth?

The kind of stuff you peddle should be in the trash can with the rest of the garbage!:banghead:


#5

[quote=Booklover]I checked out your website “Islam is the only solution” and found it full of anti-christian hatred. You call that filth the truth?

The kind of stuff you peddle should be in the trash can with the rest of the garbage!:banghead:
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Hi there

I use that website as my source exercising my choice as much as you or anyone lese does. You are entitled to your opinion, about which I don’t concern myself. So my behavior does not require your approval.

Regards
Preacher


#6

You dodged the issue.

Do you consider the Pact of Umar discriminatory or not ?


#7

[quote=Preacher]Hi there

I use that website as my source exercising my choice as much as you or anyone lese does. You are entitled to your opinion, about which I don’t concern myself. So my behavior does not require your approval.

Regards
Preacher
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So you spread such terrible stuff about us, but when someone questions some Islamic belief you say they’re getting them from non-Islamic sources and therefore not credible? Talk about double standards!


#8

To put it differently, if the very same rules applied under the Pact of Umar were in force today, only with the roles reversed (ie, muslims as the dhimmi) would you consider it an acceptable form of governance ?


#9

[quote=Preacher]Hi there

I use that website as my source exercising my choice as much as you or anyone lese does. You are entitled to your opinion, about which I don’t concern myself. So my behavior does not require your approval.

Regards
Preacher
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So you spread such terrible stuff about us, but when someone questions some Islamic belief you say they’re getting them from non-Islamic sources and therefore not credible? Talk about double standards!


#10

[quote=Preacher]Hi there

I use that website as my source exercising my choice as much as you or anyone lese does. You are entitled to your opinion, about which I don’t concern myself. So my behavior does not require your approval.

Regards
Preacher
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I just want you to know that I am outraged that you said that Jesus was Satan’s soul mate, a false prophet, an adulterer and bi-sexual! What the heck are you doing on this website with a link to your disgusting site! Shame on you for your awful blasphemies!


#11

I actually visited that site and all I can say is


Please, you disgrace the decent muslim members on this forum who try to participate in honest debate.


#12

[quote=un_dhimmi]I actually visited that site and all I can say is

WHAT A PIECE OF **** !

Please, you disgrace the decent muslim members on this forum who try to participate in honest debate.
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Hi there

Never forget that fact that you are not a Muslim, thus, by default you cannot define who is decent Muslim and who isn’t? What any Muslim post here, will never benefit you nor satisfy you, because you will always sipt venom regardless, therefore, I will ingore your comments like it was a gas bubble on an old meal.

Regards
Preacher


#13

[quote=Preacher]Hi there

Never forget that fact that you are not a Muslim, thus, by default you cannot define who is decent Muslim and who isn’t? What any Muslim post here, will never benefit you nor satisfy you, because you will always sipt venom regardless, therefore, I will ingore your comments like it was a gas bubble on an old meal.

Regards
Preacher
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But since you’re a Muslim, it’s okay for you spit venom on us? Very telling!


#14

why is it that the same muslims who speak about peace also promote this type of thing?

Talk about forked tounged.


#15

[quote=un_dhimmi]To put it differently, if the very same rules applied under the Pact of Umar were in force today, only with the roles reversed (ie, muslims as the dhimmi) would you consider it an acceptable form of governance ?
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Excellent question un dhimmi. I am very interested in seeing the answers.


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