[quote="DavidFilmer, post:8, topic:304036"]
Indeed. What is SO hard about saying the black and doing the red? Why do some priests feel compelled to add their own flair to the Mass? Why can't they just do what is expected of them, as they promised to do when they were ordained?
Priests should obey their Bishop's instruction regarding the celebration of Mass. Why do some priests find this simple directive so difficult to obey?
I agree. A priest is a consecrated minister of God. He is due the utmost reverence, even if he is bad outwardly. We cannot imagine the truly immense power a priest has: to truly forgive sins in the name of Almighty God, and to consecrate ordinary bread and wine into the most holy and sacred Body and Blood of the immortal, all-holy, omnipotent and omnibenevolent Son of God, to name two of the Sacraments we most frequently come into contact with. That being said, I too know the frustrations of liturgical abuse, not subjective ones but objective ones. Other forums as I have seen have said we shouldn't go to Mass looking for abuses like a policeman. They are right; but if you read Redemptionis Sacramentum, it says we have the responsibility and the right to raise the issue with the pastor in a spirit of charity, since every faithful has the right to the correct form of the Mass (cf. #58 and #184). I don't think we should have the attitude too much of "well, it's the priest's responsibility so I'll just leave it at that". Priests are human and they too need to be reminded. There are all kinds of complex issues at play here involving history, psychology and the devil. But to point out error can be an act of charity if it is done with charitable intent and rightly (cf. Ezekiel 3:19, James 5:20), only we as laity should take into account the immense inherent dignity of the priest. I have not always done this and the results are not pretty, that's why I'm saying this now. I think for priests who regularly commit abuses like it were nothing it's an enormously sensitive issue.
[quote="Actaeon, post:12, topic:304036"]
... and I would even argue that with the new generation of internet saavy priests today, the numbers of liturgical errors are on the actual decline.
I would humbly but honestly beg to differ. I think liturgical abuses are rampant in North America and it is very serious. The Church is in a real crisis. What's worse is that most of the time they are only "minor" abuses and so to point them out would almost mark oneself as an intolerant Pharisee. While unity and love and fellowship are very important, I wonder what must be done. I don't want to cause schism, never. I guess the fundamental issue is that underlying all of this is a deep-seeded spirit of rebellion, so even begging local bishops to force clergy to cease liturgical abuses would not heal the broken hearts of rebellion and disobedience from which these stem. What's needed is a change of heart, and so we as laity need to pray and offer sacrifice and lead holy lives, all so that love can truly grow in our hearts and motivate all our actions... but I don't know how that translates to action re: abuses, other than prayer. But let not "I will pray for that person" become an excuse not to do anything! If someone is drowning, and you are on the shore, and you are able to swim, do you simply kneel and pray for the person?
Proper liturgy is not just a question of "dotting the i's and crossing the t's" so we can win spiritual brownie points with God. Liturgy is divine (the Orthodox Church call the Mass "Divine Liturgy") and properly carried out, really points people to God and directs our hearts and minds to him. With the liberalism of our modern culture comes the idea that we should do things our own way; but our ways are not God's ways. If the Church says it is a grave abuse to break the Host at the moment of Consecration rather than at the Agnus Dei, she has a very good reason to say so (cf. op. cit. #58); or if to use Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion just because "we should allow the laity more part in the sacred roles, priests are not special, that's an old-fashioned way of thinking" or just to speed things up by a few minutes, constitutes a completely insufficient reason to do so (cf. ibid., #157 and #158), she does not say this to impede people's freedoms or be Pharisaic.
It is not wrong to sincerely warn someone that what they are doing is a sin (cf. chastitysf.com/judgmental.htm), but we should be very sensitive to the other person when doing so and be careful ourselves not to fall into the same sin (cf. Galatians 6:1).