I must second Frank here. I have had similar experiences and find great peace at our local oratory (institute-christ-king.org/stlouishome.htm), knowing that I can go to Holy Mass and not have to worry about what “Father Feelgood” is going to say (or not say) and knowing that I won’t have to experience such attrocities as things like “ministry of danced prayer.” It’s all Christ-focused: one of the reasons why Father does not face the congregation during Mass. He’s focused on Christ’s real presence in the Tabernacle. The focus is certainly not on the priest.
I do applaud, however, parishes and priests who follow the rubrics and teachings of the Church in the Novus Ordo. Good examples include the EWTN Televised Mass, my experience with Opus Dei, Archbishop Burke, and a few other local priests with guts.
RacerX, if you have the time, get ahold of one of the Tridentine Missals. The local indult parish may have the red books that have the parts of the Mass in them. Read the prayers: see how penetential the Tridentine Mass is. We’re begging God to have mercy on us everytime we go to Mass. It’s a constant theme throughout it and it’s humbling ergo it keeps pride at bay. The prayers are beautiful, and it is a sincere loss, IMHO, that the writers of the Mass of Paul VI (aka: Novus Ordo) decided to drop them. It has made things weak and more casual. Full participation can be given if one “prays the Mass” while it’s unfolding in our churches.
[quote=Frank Hogrebe]Racer X,
“But with regard to accidentals, I have to go with the Novus Ordo. The Tridentine is certainly beautiful, but I am not there merely to be moved or entertained; I am there to worship. Active participation is very important IMHO.”
The Novus Ordo can certainly be full of accidentals: Celebrants *accidentally * wearing khakis and sportshirts under their vestments; alter “persons” *accidentally * wearing flip-flops and ratty old sneakers; crucifixes *accidentally * being replaced by various forms of what could only be called “Touchdown Jesus” or “Greg Luganis Jesus”; parishoners *accidentally * wearing halter tops and short-shorts to Mass and *accidentally * catching up on the neighborhood gossip while others are trying to participate in the Mass; etc., etc.
… seriously though, RacerX, I think the point is well made that just because the congregation is mostly silent during the Tridentine Mass most certainly doesn’t mean they are not participating or worshipping. To the contrary, they are likely participating and worshipping in a more profound way than is even possible in the average Novus Ordo parish.
My experience was exactly the opposite of yours. After years of being distracted in the Novus Ordo Mass by irreverence, inappropriateness, churches with no kneelers, bad and/or heretical homilies, 12-string guitars strumming really bad 70s Christian folk music-- my first response to the Tridentine rite was, “PRAISE THE LORD! Here is a Mass I can finally, truly WORSHIP at.”
just some thoughts,