By the way, the discussion is not off-topic. The title to the thread reads, “The spear that pierced the side of Christ…” The question in Post #1 reads, “How many of the rumors behind this artifact are true, such as it has powerful occult powers and what not…”
Actually you are right about that. With the statement about being off topic I was referring to our discussion of your client’s claims about Hitler’s home which I hope you now realize were not true. He may have been a great guy and very convincing, but Hitler’s home was a burned out skeleton of a building before the first American troops ever got near it. There was nothing left to “break in to”. What few things of value there were that escaped damage were removed by the SS staff and the ruins were set ablaze. The only things found by American troops were in the storage areas of the bunker system. The records of the 3rd Infantry division and the 101st Airborne units that were the first Allied units there confirm the state of the ruins when they arrived. Your client’s story is simply not true. It can not possibly be true.
You contested my discussion by saying, in part (inaccurately) that “Hitler was not an occultist.”
My statement that he was not an occultist in the sense that you believe he was is correct. Yes, I am aware of Stein’s work as well as “The Spear of Destiny” by Trevor Ravencroft and “Adolf Hitler and the Secrets of the Holy Lance” by Buechner & Bernhart. All of these works feed off of each other and they are the source of this belief. As I said, Hitler did have “pagan” (or “occult” if you wish) beliefs but they were centered in ancient Germanic lore and mythology.
Therefore, when I say, “Yes, that spearhead WAS believed by some occultists to be a talisman, including by Adolf Hitler, himself,” I’m wrong – that in effect is your argument, right?
“Some occultists” is a pretty wide expansion of our previous comments. Yes, of course there were many people then and still many today who believe this, in spite of the spear being proven as a fake. It is possible that a young Hitler may have been one of them but other than in the works cited above which rely on heresay with no documentation, there is no reliable evidence of these claims. For something to be considered history, it needs to be reliably documented.