The Spirit of Jesus


#1

In The Acts of the Apostles, Chapter 16 Verse 17 states:

 When they came to Mysia, they tried to go on to Bithynia, but the Spirit of Jesus did not allow them,        

Is the Spirit of Jesus referring to the Holy Spirit?


#2

Yes.


#3

interesting question,…because in other places it is written, the Holy Spirit forbade, or constrained them,…and here it says ‘the Spirit of Jesus’,


#4

The Spirit of Jesus is the Holy Spirit. God is a Trinity.


#5

According to the Haydock Commentary on the Douay Bible:

7 And when they were come into Mysia, they attempted to go into Bithynia, and the Spirit of Jesus permitted them not.

Ver. 7.* The spirit of Jesus permitted them not.* It is the same spirit, which just before was called the Holy Ghost: for the Holy Ghost is the spirit of Jesus, as proceeding from the Son as well as from the Father. (Witham)


#6

In the previous verse to this one, in fact. Here is the Haydock Commentary on verse 6:

6 Now having passed through Phrygia, and the country of Galatia, they were forbidden, by the Holy Ghost, to preach the word of God in Asia.

Ver. 6. They were forbidden by the Holy Ghost, to go, and preach at that time in the Lesser Asia [Asia Minor], perhaps because their preaching in Macedonia was more necessary; or because St. John was to be sent into Asia [Asia Minor]. (Witham) — Forbidden. Why? Because they were not yet prepared to receive the gospel; or, perhaps, these provinces were reserved for St. John, as Bithynia was for St. Luke. (Menochius) — St. Leo compares this question to many others respecting the inscrutable judgments of God. Why did not the Son of God come into the world many ages before? Why did he suffer so many to die in ignorance? Why are there yet so many in infidelity? Why, in one family, does one believe and is converted, while another remains in darkness, and crime? Who shall account for the exercise he pleases to make of his rigour, or his mercy, when all were justly victims of the former? (St. Leo, de vocat. Gentium. lib. ii. chap. 2)


#7

I was picturing Jesus appearing to them, maybe in a dream,…


#8

Jesus did say He went away so the H. Sp could come in the way He now is


#9

Thus the Holy Spirit (sent by the Father and or through the Son) is the Spirit of both. Because even though Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are different from each other , they are the One True God, and 3 Persons related to each other.
If they were not different, they would not be related. But because Jesus said when you see him you see the Father (who is Father because there is the Son, and vice-versa), when the Spirit comes, it is the Spirit of God the Father and God the Son.

:slight_smile:


#10

How I picture them is three, individual, joined, Father, Son and Holy Spirit,…
meaning there is a Father, there is a Son, and there is a Holy Spirit.

I see the Holy Spirit as another person, like the Father is and the Son is,…we don’t hear about Him the way we hear about the Father and the Son, because we haven’t seen His earth walk, nor do we have a picture of Him, with an analogy, ie. the Father has the picture of Father, for us, all we know of Father fits into that image, when we hear the word Father,…however we don’t have a similar something to relate the Holy Spirit too.

I don’t think the Holy Spirit is just the Father’s Spirit, or the Son’s Spirit, I think He is a separate individual.

ie. I think the Spirit of Jesus, is just that - Jesus’ Spirit, but I think the Holy Spirit is a separate individual person, one of the joined Godhead, but Not the Spirit of Jesus, and Not the Spirit of the Father, He is His own person.

:blush:


#11

This is the best post I have ever read on CAF. I totally agree. :smiley:

-Tim-


#12

Well, I hope it agrees with what i just said :stuck_out_tongue:


#13

I just put smileys and the bible book pict. in it but it didn’t print


#14

I know this is a seeming tiny point and compared to the whole bible, seemingly unimportant, however, since the Bible is the Inspired Word of God, all that is in it is very important. Out of the study of one small point can come Gold, like panning for gold nuggets in a river.

Revelation from God out of His Word can come from the seemingly slightest point. :cool:

The Holy Spirit must be a person, like Jesus is a person, and the Father is a person.
Its’ difficult to see Him this way, because we don’t have ‘other’ things about Him to relate Him too, the way the father image and the son image have mental pictures of what a father and a son is to relate that too.

The Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost, we only have ‘ghost’ mental pictures to relate to that.

Although they are joined, 3, in One, they are also individual Persons.

I’m just saying that Jesus’ Spirit is not necessarily the Holy Spirit, since Jesus and the Holy Spirit are two individual Persons joined in the Godhead, yet still individual as far as Person is concerned.

If you think of the Holy Spirit as an individual Person in the Godhead, you can see what I am trying to say.


#15

Think on this,
Why would the Bible the Holy and Inspired Word of God, list
the Holy Spirit
and the Spirit of Jesus as Separate?


#16

Why wouldn’t the Holy Bible have just said, Holy Spirit, when it spoke of both,
instead of listing the Spirit of Jesus as ‘the Spirit of Jesus’ why not just
call them both- The Holy Spirit?:smiley:


#17

Well it can be that in the Old testament, Jesus wasn’t fully known (or as the Word), so the Holy Spirit wasn’t already understood like Jesus’ Spirit.
Second, Look at Genesis, God being a Spirit, why does he have the Holy Spirit “with Him”?
Because, being the same (Essence), they are different Persons, and we cannot describe it better.


#18

ok, where in Genesis did you point, where God, being Spirit and has the Holy Spirit with Him, because I think this supports what I was trying to say,…


#19

what does CC catechism say, about this point?


#20

Genesis chapter 1: the creation for instance.

But the point is, the Spirit of Jesus is not another Spirit as the Spirit of God, or Holy Spirit. Since Jesus is God, His Spirit is the Spirit of God.


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