[quote=Elzee]*I think, though, he was quoting from **1 John Chapter 2, verse 27, ***where it basically says the people have been annointed and therefore need no one to teach them (the ‘Church’ in his mind) - the Holy Spirit will guide everyone. ***Can someone pleae help me put this verse in context and what it means? ***
Hmm - I guess I still have a question about the verse above the more I think about how all this fits together…how does this fit into your earlier discussion Pax? I think John’s letter was directed to all the people he was writing to, telling them they don’t need someone to ‘teach them’?
Naturally, every verse of scripture needs to be understood in the context of the verses surrounding it as well as the rest of scripture in general. John 2:27 is the last part of Chapter 2. The verse is preceded by John teaching his listeners about sin, obedience, love of God, and love of neighbor/brother. John also warns them not to love the things of the world, and also warns them of the false teachers that are in the spirit of the antichrist.
Clearly, John is “teaching” and it is a nonsequiteur to argue that verse 27 means that his listeners do not need any teaching at all because they are annointed by God. Instead, we should be able to see that John doesn’t want his listeners to fall victim to false teachers in the spirit of the antichrist. The latter part of verse 27 as well as verse 28 are also helpful. They point out that John’s Christian listeners are told to “abide” in Christ. The word abide means to “remain,” and they are warned that they must do so in order that they “may have confidence and not shrink from him[Jesus] in shame at his coming.” John is teaching and instructing, and is not simply leaving the flock to fend for themselves with total dependence on the Holy Spirit.
Practical experience also shows us that when left to our own devices we will misinterpret the Holy Spirit with startling regularity. Good intentions and sincerity do not guarantee that one will know and grab hold of the truth. The competing doctrines that are argued by sincere and prayerful Christians of different denominations are a testimony to the failure of the belief that individually we will be led unto all truth. The Church is the body of Christ and as his body we will be brought into all truth. In John 17 Jesus prays for unity among the apostles and then for all those that follow them. This unity is also described by Paul in Eph 4:4-6 when he says, “There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of us all, who is above all and through all and in all.” Paul gives additional testimony of this in Philippians 1:27-28 when he says, "Only let your manner of life be worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or am absent, I may hear of you that you stand firm in one spirit, with one mind striving side by side for the faith of the gospel, and not frightened in anything by your opponents. This is a clear omen to them of their destruction, but of your salvation, and that from God."
The Holy Spirit does not divide us, but the idea of going it alone with the Holy Spirit will divide us. Scripture makes it clear that we are the body of Christ and that we don’t go it alone in any way shape or form. The idea of the “individual and the Holy Spirit” is a clear break from the New Covenant statements concerning “the body of Christ and the unity prayed for by Jesus.” If the proposition was true then there would be no disagreements between sincere and prayerful Christians concerning matters of doctrine, faith, or morals. The data indicates that this is not the case.