On the Islam thread dean was asking questions about The Trinity to give an understanding from the Muslim perspective. Dean mentioned that a new thread should be started to discuss it so here it is. This is my response to dean’s questions and statements in one post. I hope this helps a little.
[quote=deen] How else can we take the meaning of “Messiah” and “Christ”? Maybe if we re-investigate the Bible, we might find numerous evidence that these words could not lead to divinity.
The word Messiah and Christ both mean savior, not prophet.
[quote=deen] As for the Trinity. Please clarify your position by answering some of my questions:
Do you believe that Jesus was God-incarnate, full man and full God? If yes, can the finite and the infinite be one? “To be full” God means freedom from finite forms and from helplessness, and to be “full man” means the absence of divinity.
We believe that Christ was The Incarnation of God. They are one person, two natures. One human nature and one Divine Nature. He is fully God and fully man. It does not mean to be free from finite beings. What it means to be God is to be eternal, immutable, omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient. To say that God could not be a man limits God, therefore your statement is false. God can be man or anything else he wants.
It does not mean the absence of Divinity to be man. What it means to be man is to be created. As I said above, Christ has two natures; one Divine and one human. The Divine one is eternal and uncreated. He is The Begotten Word of God. The human nature of Christ is created.
Now, to say that The Son of God was limited to flesh is a misunderstanding of The Son of God. The Son of God is eternal and became man. He was not created as a man. The bible says “everything was made through Him and nothing that was made was made without Him.”[John1;3] This means that He is an eternal being. If He was created it would be impossible for everything that was created to be created by him.
[quote=deen] To be son is to be less than divine and to be divine is to be no one’s son. **How could Jesus have the attributes of sonship and divinity altogether? **
This is false logic. You start with taking a human term which was used by God and His Son as a form to allow us to understand Him. It is not a literal son as I am of my father.
What it means to be The Son of God is to be “begotten of The Father from all ages”.
[quote=deen] Maybe we can open a new thread about Trinity if you wish to discuss this further.
thx and peace,