There was another big TE thread going on, but it was so long I couldnt keep up. It is a very interesting theory.
My question concerns the death of animals and humans before the fall. The obvious issue is if no animal death occurred then no evolution was possible.
Here are some things I am considering:
- Genesis 1:
29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.
This shows that plants were given for food, but not animals. This suggests animals and humans did not eat each other before the fall, thus animal death couldn’t have come through eating.
19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name.
This seems odd that death and extinction would exist if Adam’s job was to name animals.
14 So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this,
"Cursed are you above all the livestock
and all the wild animals!
16 To the woman he said,
"I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing;
17 To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat of it,’
"Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat of it
all the days of your life. 18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
The question now is how the fall affected creation as a whole. V18 shows thorns and thistles sprung up. Obviously thorns serve no good purpose, especially when God gave plants as food for animals and man. This is clearly a corruption of the earth/plant-life. The snake became cursed, but did other animal life? Gen 7:8 mentions Noah needing to take “clean and unclean” animals. Certainly an “unclean” animal is not part of God’s original design. A pig which lives in filth and carries multiple diseases was not part of God’s original plan. Gen 6:7 is where God is unhappy with the way creation has gone and wants to wipe out both man and animal.
4)Im working on this as I go and I just now came upon an amazing passage in Gen 9 when God blessed Noah after the flood:
1 Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. 2 The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. 3 Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.
This is clear evidence that animals changed and that man just now is given animals to eat.
So what do you all think?