There is no wine

It is a historic fact that the people of the Old and New Testament didn’t drink wine. What they drank was grape juice. It’s true! Jesus drank grape juice at Passover, just like every Jew did. And the prophets, when they spoke about the banquet God was preparing for Israel, they used the imagery of grape juice - not that nasty old wine that Catholics drink! And did you know Noah got drunk on grape juice? Yep, it’s a powerful drink. He drank so much that he went unconscious and started slurring and got a major headache in the morning. So watch your grape juice! And don’t believe anyone who tells you it’s wine; that is a lie against God! It’s a mistranslation and an error! It’s grape juice, it’s there in the Bible, look it up. So the next time a Catholic tells you Jesus is in the Eucharist, you can just tell him, “No sir, he ain’t in this grape juice! Nuh uh!”

Have you ever gotten drunk off grape juice?

Nope. :slight_smile:

i did once but it was mixed with everclear.

That explains it! :smiley:

You alright? :smiley:

Grape juice begins to ferment into wine as soon as it is exposed to air. It was unknown until the late 19th century when pasteurization and refrigeration made it possible to prevent fermentation.

SO why do Protestants use grape juice? Any real reasons?

Revert TSIEG

That’s why God gave Jesus a refrigerator :smiley:

Just having some fun :wink:

I don’t know. Maybe because Catholics use wine?

You know what… you are probably right!

Our parish father is a convert, and he always cracks jokes during his homily about other denominations by saying… juice, never wine! HAHA

The odd thing is that the Bible states wine… I would think following Sola Scripta would enable them even more to use wine.

Revert TSIEG

This has to be a joke. Everybody knows that it was wine.

:smiley:

Well… not everyone.:thumbsup:

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: no wine

Jesus drank wine. That said, let’s look at the historical circumstances. Grapes are harvested in the fall, and Passover (the time of the Last Supper) is in the spring. Without refrigeration, grapes (and grape juice) do not keep very well. Within a few days after the harvest, grapes begin to ferment and/or rot. The only methods of preservation available to the 1st century citizen were to extract the juice and let it ferment under somewhat controlled conditions (this is called wine making) or to dry the grapes which resulted in raisins. At the Last Supper Jesus said “I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine” (Matthew 26:29, KJV). In those days they made wine from a number of different fruits but the wine of the grape, the “fruit of the vine,” was alone used at Passover. Since this was spring, and the Passover liturgy called for all participants to drink four cups of wine, grape juice preserved by fermentation (wine) was most certainly used or at least one of the Gospel writers would have remarked about the departure from the natural; as they did so often about all His other miracles. The prescriptions for celebrating the Passover called for the cups of wine to be diluted with water. This was necessary because the fermentation process made it rather strong and also because the vessels they kept the wine in were somewhat porous and the wine tended to become thick with age as moisture escaped. This is the historical background behind why the priest adds a drop of water to the chalice during the Liturgy of the Eucharist. Wine not well protected from the air while it was stored became sour wine (vinegar).

This is from another thread posted by someone named Bill Pick

A correction to that post. Doesn’t the Priest add water because water and blood is what came out of our Lords side when he was pierced on the cross?

Thanks :slight_smile:

That’s a good question.

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