[quote="Archie, post:17, topic:185612"]
Interesting comments, Darryl.
"The conservative criticism of the ACLU mainly centers on the fact that it plays into this theme."
Well, I no longer like to classify myself as a "conservative." I believe the left / right paradigm has simply been a tool to further manipulate and control us all.
Oh, I think that there are very real differences between those who look to government for the answers and those who distrust government Modern day conservatism seek limits on government so that the ability to manipulate and control is lessened.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
When we become believers and followers of Jesus, "identify politics" is just another way of the world. From the point we accept Christ, we become "Christians" and no other label matters.
This is what I consider to have been the aim of the (liberal)civil rights movement, before Johnson, before it became hijacked by special interests and identity politics. It need not be a left/right issue at all, I agree, but this type of thinking on woman's rights and minority rights, and homosexual rights, special rights for minorities of all kinds, very much now defines the left wing of the political spectrum. It has made itself the dominant paradigm in law today.
I do not know much about what cases Thomas More Law Center takes or does not take, but in this particular matter of the "hate crime law", it does seem that Christians, not Muslims, are being judged to be guilty of "hate crimes" by the simple practice of their religion.
When the paradigm becomes 'minority rights', then to the extent that Christianity is still defined as the majority, there are no special rights being afforded to Christians. Minority rights are defined against the dominant paradigm, which is defined by the left as Christianity.
This is the irony that I was alluding to earlier. From my vantage point, it would seem that the More Society is merely following the paradigm of minority rights for themselves. 'We are all minorities now'.
It somewhat follows the example of the men's rights movement, at once an answer to, and a parody of, the woman's rights movement.
The left in general has trouble with this, for when everyone is a minority no one is a minority. They in effect become victims of their own success.
Marxist conflict models depend on there being a dominant power structure to be in conflict with, the Christian,white Anglo-saxon male capitalist one, to be precise. To the extent that this faction is no longer dominant in society, but is in effect self-defining as just another minority amongst many, the system that the left has set up becomes a parody of itself.
I would think that a group of Muslim lawyers would be the best place for a Muslim to seek legal help, not only if accused of "hate crime" but also for any civil liberty violation.
Well, so do Muslims. CAIR certainly understands how the game of Identity politics plays itself out in the legal arena. They are looking out for themselves, as one special interest group among many. Of course Muslim rights aim towards a very different kind of society of special rights for Muslims and special 'protections' for the dhimmis. To the extent that they are successful, others will not be.
The "hate crime law" is a 360 degree turn from traditional American Constitutional law and legal philosophy., and I believe Christians should do whatever they can to oppose this horrid law. All people in the USA will benefit, not just Christians.
American constitutional law and philosophy did not just arise as if by magic, big banging itself into existence as it were from the void. 1700 years of Christianity, itself developed out of Graeco-Roman philosophy and legalism, along with Hebrew ideals and morality, served as the bedrock for the whole system in the first place.
That is the ultimate irony here. To the extent that Thomas More Society fights for the special 'minority rights' of Catholic Christianity, it is really fighting for the freedom and rights of everybody. The ideals of freedom to believe, of individual freedom itself, of there being neither Greek nor Jew, nor male nor female, literally guarantee that the same freedoms apply to all of us, as our inherent, God-given rights. Ergo not even any legislature can legislate them into existence or out of existence. These rights come from the highest authority, as even the American constitution recognizes.
To the extent that they are effective then, the Thomas More legalists will not be exclusive, but inclusive, by the very definition of their Catholicism. If successful, their arguments will turn the current Marxist conflict paradigm 360 degrees back onto its head.
Leftist therefore have a vested interest in this particular minority rights group's failure.