Thoughts on "not all nudity is sexual"?

My friend shared with me a music video which had a naked woman opening up her legs (but computer effects covered the parts with a flower each or something like that). My friend said “Not all nudity is sexual. You are the one sexualizing it.”

Thoughts?

The example is totally sexual. Your friend will have to provide an example of non-sexual nudity.

Ed

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Nudity is basically non-sexual. What makes it sexual is the intent and matter, the demonstration and exposition of it. Porn uses nudity, a sexual nudity. Michelangelo uses nudity, for the glory of God and for real-life exemplification. It’s all down to intent and purpose.

Um…yeah. I thought the OP would be about a statue from Classical Greece.

A music video where the privates are pixelated? That’s sexual. Nothing but.

It is certainly possible to have nonsexual nudes, but the video example isn’t one.

ICXC NIKA

That video sounds absolutely horrible:rolleyes: And, no, not all nudity is wrong. God made us, and originally we weren’t even meant for clothes. But Eve ruined that for us. And Adam is to blame too, for taking that apple from her!

There are tons of paintings in our Church that involve full or partial nudity. To some, it’s merely art. The body is the creation of God, and is beautiful. To others, it’s a temptation that causes us to think of sexual things. I fall in the latter category and so I have to not look at those things, at least until they stop being a temptation to me that causes me to have impure thoughts.

That is sexual, in some sense, even without sexualizing. Watching a woman opening her legs, even with a flower, is suggestive. In fact the flower covering could be considered a tease.

Collins dictionary:
sexual, adj. : 1. of, characteristic of, or involving sex, the sexes, the organs of sex and their functions, or the instincts, drives, behavior, etc. associated with sex.

sexualize, trans. verb. : to make sexual; endow with sexual significance, feeling, etc.

That painting shown a few posts above, I’ve never cared for it. Actually, I’ve always thought it was ugly. I’m a woman, and I’m by no means romantically attracted to women, but I’ve always found the female body to be more beautiful. I don’t mean to be bluntly insulting to men, it’s just the way I’ve always felt. I think God did design the Woman to be the more beautiful. She is smaller, and the one to be looked after under the protection of the Man. I always think of Adam and Eve in the garden. I mean, modern day wrong feminism aside, these were our original roles. The man was stronger than the woman, and she had him to make her feel protected. And he couldn’t live without her to take care of him in her own womanly ways. Male and female were meant to complement each other, not compete. I’ve gone way off topic! Sorry.

“Well, the female body is a… work of art. The male body is utilitarian, it’s for gettin’ around, like a jeep.”

  • Elaine (Seinfeld)

The mind is a strange thing. Adam and Eve were nude in Eden. They were not aware of their state of undress. After they were disobedient their eyes opened and they were aware they were naked. Innocence is gone. Everyone who sees a naked piece of art or pornography or the said situation, is going to have a sexual thought. Michelangelo s David=first thought is beautiful sculpture. Second thought =boy, he has a small male anatomy.
Now, that statue did not lead me into sinful thoughts because it makes me laugh.
St Anthony of Padua, called a miracle worker for answered prayers and helping to control lustfull thoughts and behavior Hear our prayer and give wisdom to all that hAve a problem with lust. THAT THEY SHOULD DISCERN IT AND Avoid it.Psalm 54
CREATE IN ME A CLEAN HEART OH LORD.
in Christ’s love
Tweedlealice

GEeddie post #6 expressed one of my thoughts well.

My other thought is you should find a different friend! Why waste your time with someone who shows you a sexually suggestive music video and then suggests you have an issue for recognizing it as sexual? It doesn’t sound like he’s either a good influence or a real friend.

What is horrible about it…sounds like it was just showing a female body, with no other people in the video (which, had their been, this definitely would have made it sexual/ porn), in fact, the act of ‘censoring’ a particular part of the body, or feeling it needs to be covered up, may be the real sin here, that is the enemy, making us think our bodies are nasty, dirty, we should shield our kids eyes from seeing it.

Our bodies are creations of God and meant to be admired for their beauty, as long as there is no sex act taking place or other people involved, nothing wrong with admiring a human body, no matter which part it happens to be.Plus, there is a big difference between admiring the beauty of a body versus looking upon a body with lust, again, this would apply to ALL parts of the body too.

There’s a huge error-bar here.

Some are able to see the human body qua body without reacting sexually, others are not. It is because the thresholds are uncertain that there are nonending debates over modesty, or a need for it in the first place. And modesty, by the way , is NOT the same as formality!

ICXC NIKA

I tend to agree with Mikele. Whether the nudity involved is sexual or not has to lie in the mind of the beholder. One knows when one sees nudity how it affects them. If seeing it makes you feel its wrong then look the other way and remove it.

That is not the case with porn, which many struggle with.

Ed

Lust occurs without a sex act, and sin is occurs by entertaining thoughts. Therefore all ought to be careful not to lead others into temptation, especially where it is not know who will view it. What begins as admiring beauty becomes imagining acts or coveting, or stimulating to solitary acts of a sinful nature. For that reason certain body parts are covered.

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