too tired debating whose religion is right?


#1

if you are too tired and caught up in arguments on this forum, here is a little break for you. :slight_smile:

Christian, Athiest Debate on ABC Nightline …
abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=3148940&page=1

You have something to pray for. :slight_smile:

God bless.


#2

Thanks Water. Ill try to stay up to watch it:thumbsup:


#3

NOOOOOOOOO! :crying: LOOK who is representing the Christian side…Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort…NOOOO!..this was a set up to make Christians look bad!..:crying:


#4

Why do you say that?


#5

Those guys, though good men, preach a jack chick theology level of Christianity. They will get torn to shreds by those atheists…and as a result give all America the impression Christianity is a push over and cant provide the answers.

If you ever have seen their show on TV you will see they dont take their theology past a verse or two at a time.


#6

I don’t much about the guys, Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort - we know we need to pray for them - That was my whole reason for this thread. :slight_smile:


#7

Here is their webpage:
wayofthemaster.com/

They are good guys, but in my opinion are the wrong guys to represent Christianity on the debate level, especially against atheists.


#8

And here is what Ray Comfort tells his followers about Catholics:

**17. How do you witness to a Roman Catholic? **
The problem is that he is most likely not born again. It is because of this, that there is contention. I have found that it is often a futile exercise to try and convince a Roman Catholic that the teachings of his church are erroneous. Instead, I open up the Law (the Ten Commandments), then say that if he is not born again he is not a Christian (I show him John 3 and say that Jesus said it–in the Catholic Bible). Unless that happens, he is unsaved and cannot enter Heaven (and there is no purgatory). I then spread it out by letting him know that if someone is a Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, Salvation Army, Catholic or “whatever,” and is not born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God. **When he is truly converted, the Holy Spirit will lead him into all truth and away from the error of Roman Catholicism. **

livingwaters.com/helps/faq.shtml#17

God bless


#9

Those guys, nice as they may be, would also have a hard time against Nestorians.:wink:


#10

So, how was the debates, guys?

I couldn’t see the debate because I don’t have cable and my TV can catch only one channel -

Thanks!


#11

I was too tired to stay up and watch. ABCNews.com will be showing it today at 1 p.m. I’ll watch it then if my kiddos let me.


#12

back to the original question= yes, i`m very very tired of debating which religion is right. I actually only came here because I got some mormoms coming to me every week and this forum has so far been quite useful.

debating with non-christians like mormons and JW, ok.

debating between chrsitians- nice, but a waste of time.

:slight_smile:


#13

Yeah, my first impression of Cameron and Comfort happened to be this episode of their radio podcast, where they featured John MacArthur:

Hour 1
Hour 2

This guy is perhaps the most unscholarly, rabid anti-Catholic I’ve ever heard (which says a lot). You can get the gist of him in only 5 or 10 minutes.

But I’d still like to hear what anyone thought of the debate vs. the athiests!


#14

I saw a few minutes last night and wow that Cameron really is clueless. :o

They should have had a Catholic on there to help the poor guy out. :slight_smile:


#15

If he only knows how clueless he is. :shrug:


#16

Why do you say that?:frowning: To be honest with you I dont think a catholic would have done any better or worse. These atheists were pretty set in their beliefs and pretty set about spewing them.:frowning:
I fell aslepp and then woke up and Im not sure how much if any I missed.


#17

I do think a Catholic would have done better. I have seen debates with atheisits with catholics and with protestants. Protestants just are not as good. And catholics have more weapons for this kind of thing. Sorry, I am not picking on him personally or attacking your faith, just saying its lacking certain tools to fight this kind of thing is all.

Protestants would have a hard time fighting Nestorianism too.

In fact, I think I hit a spiritual truth here. Catholics have better tools to fight all heresy with.:slight_smile:


#18

Thank you for answering.:smiley: I dont even know what Nestorianism is:confused:
Im just curious what tools you have that you think is better to fight atheists with? Im not interested in debating this just wondering is all.:thumbsup:


#19

Atheists can very cleverly discount the bible to those who never read it.

Protestants can not defend the veracity of the bible as well as A Catholic, its that simple.

And, we could go from there on.

PLEASE research the Nestorian heresy and pray about it.:slight_smile:

You may be awfully surprised, and saddened at how it goes. Sorry.


#20

Thank you:)


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