Traditional English Hymns, for the Traditional Latin Mass?

I know that during the mass of the old rite, the have used hymns in english? Holy Holy Holy & Holy God we praise thy name (just to name two.) Now is ther a place where I could find and old hymnal with english hymns in it or a website with some old english hymns?

All the hymns before Vat II were not written exculsively in Latin and just translated into english where they? Any help would be appreciated as I am try to bolster my english hymns in my collection.

Thanks

Anthony
anthony.pelliccio@us.army.mil

The Saint Gregory Hymnal was rather popular to my knowledge. Lots of hymns in both Latin and English including certain alternate settings of texts we don’t hear too often anymore.

Some modern hymnals do have the more traditional hymns. GIA publishes one that I think is 70% traditional and 30% modern (according to their website). Adoremus (www.adoremus.com) I believe publishes a hymnal which I can only guess would be particularly traditional.

I’ve been attending the Latin mass for the past couple of years and have had the opportunity to visit many different latin mass chapels.

In English speaking countries you will generally see one of two missals

  1. The St. Basil Hymnal which is the older of the two
  2. The SSPX Hymnal which I have seen used at both SSPX and FSSP and Diocesan run churches.

Both of these hymnals are quite good and have a lot of the good older English hymns.

Usually English hymns were reserved for the beginning and end of mass. Most masses in the USA pre-Vatican II were low masses so they wouldn’t have any singing besides and entrance and processional hymn. At the odd chance that you would see a Sung Mass in Pre-Vatican II America the same rules apply for the entrance and processional hymns in that they can be sung in English, but the rest of the songs during the course of the mass were in Latin.

Oh I just saw that you live in Bayonne. If you want to check out a Traditional Latin mass there are a couple in the area. The closest one in your neck of the woods is probably at Holy Rosary Church on 6th street in Jersey City. The next closest one is at St. Agnes in Manhattan (This church has an EXCELLENT latin mass every Sunday, but you are unlikely to hear many English hymns sung here as they are quite artistic about their music selection and prefer to play songs written by Mozart and other such composers). The next closest one is probably St. Anthonys of Padua Chapel in West Orange, NJ which is a fully approved Latin Mass Chapel in the diocese of Newark. They Have 3 masses every Sunday. Be sure to check one of these out when you get the chance.

Chris

I have a couple of Pre-Vatican II hymnals, all second hand. The Catholic Cathedral of Westminster (not the Abbey) brought out the ‘Westminster Hymnal’.

This was widely used in the UK and other English speaking countries. I am not sure about the US though.

It is great as it includes hymns by Ven. John Henry Cardinal Newman and Ronald Knox.

Perhaps you could try some second-hand book stores.

Christopher

There was a recent thread with many references to hymns online.
Just do a Google search and you’ll find more than enough.

Chris,

I am a soldier currently deployed in support of the Global War on Terrorims : Operation Enduring Freedom ; Kosovo Force.

As far as Holy Rosary goes I am very familar with the parish. I am a member and was one of the altar boys for the latin mass there on sundays. I have heard english hymns there (not the predominant, but there is usualy one during the mass.) Even though we have some very very very old guard Catholics who complain even when we used an english hymn (tradtional too, it was never like On eagles wings or Amazing Grace).

Fr. Rino is a great guy and an amazing pastor. Also Fr. Montckel says the mass there too from time to time and man can he give a sermon with a theological lesson.

[quote=pm1853]The Saint Gregory Hymnal was rather popular to my knowledge. Lots of hymns in both Latin and English including certain alternate settings of texts we don’t hear too often anymore.

Some modern hymnals do have the more traditional hymns. GIA publishes one that I think is 70% traditional and 30% modern (according to their website). Adoremus (www.adoremus.com) I believe publishes a hymnal which I can only guess would be particularly traditional.
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The website is www.adoremus.org . Once you get on the site, click on Adoremus Hymnal. I believe there are 3 editions.:slight_smile:

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