[quote=God’s Child]This is what I have been told: The people who attend these masses do so because they don’t believe that Vatican II was right. They don’t want to stray away from the old Latin mass, and they believe in the kneeling, covering of head, etc.
From what I have been told there are small groups out there who pay to have a Priest come and give them the old traditional Catholic mass each week. The reason I said ex-communicated when speaking of this particular priest is because that’s exactly what he is – put into retirement after being ex-communicated.
Another question I have is: I was under the understanding that if Priests were ex-communicated, they could not give the Sacraments? Is this correct? Because, he does do them - communion, funerals, last rights, etc.
Excommunicated means that he is no longer in Communion with the Church in Rome. He was probably also defrocked. However, “Once a Priest, always a Priest.” I assume that his original ordination was valid, so his soul received an indelible and unremovable stamp when he was ordained a priest. So, Assuming his ordination was valid, he is confecting valid, but illicit, Sacraments.
I would receive them only in an emergency. Otherwise, please go to a Church in union with Rome.
The best solution for him is to find a Bishop who will allow him to say the TLM in a parish that wants that and then to be normalized as a Catholic priest in that Diocese - I know of a priest who just went through that process.
Regarding him and his congregations at present - to do what they do, they have to believe not only that Vatican II was not a legitimate Council, but that the Pope is not legitimate. Many of these also believe that the present Pope isn’t even a Bishop by reason of a Defective Ordinal.
Our Lord guaranteed that he would not allow this to happen. I fail to see how our Lord would preserve the Church and the Papcy through the corrupt periods of the Middle Ages and the Renaissance and then would allow it to go to invalidity during a period of spiritual renewal and growth. It simply makes no sense.
Please kindly suggest to your friend that he ask the 21st Century Monophysite in the Mirror when he wishes to rejoin the Catholic Church and to return to Communion with the Church Christ founded.
St. Peter’s seat is NOT Empty. It is quite occupied, and occupied by a Godly man. you might ask how many of the Popes from the Middle Ages and the Renaissance were as worthy of the office as either Pope John XXIII, Pope Paul VI, Pope John Paul II or Pope Benedict XVI.
In Christ, Michael