[quote="ManOnFire, post:1, topic:252483"]
OK, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems there's much confusion over Liberalism.
The True-Love-Liberals seem to have the best wishes and good intentions, but most reasonable people should be able to see that govt safety nets alone can't improve lives to a satisfactory level.
The Depopulation-Liberals want TV, movies, and music to promote more kinky shallow love-less sex, drugs, instant gratification, addiction to shallow amusements, independent individualism, i.e. selfishness, in the hopes that more people will live for personal pleasure rather than true, romantic love. This is an intentional weakening of true, romantic love. This is not progress. This promotion is a Regression into a Neanderthalian desire to act on base instincts for the Self. Increases in birth control will lead to decreases in marriage and family, which will lead to decreases in population. Many of the kids will become financial obligations of the taxpayers because many will grow up without fathers. This is how depopulation and socialism appear to be working in Europe.
While True-Love-Liberals seem to have the best wishes and good intentions, the Depopulation-Liberals are intentionally ruining True, romantic love in the music, TV, and movies in order to drive a wedge between True love between men and women.
What say you?
As long as you are grouping, where do you think Pope Benedict lies? He is farther left fiscally than probably any politician in the US...
And what about the Right that promotes a systems that in an unrestricted sense is the most greedy and anti-Christian form of economics in the history of mankind? (laissez faire capitalism).
When Christ told the rich man to give away everything to follow Him, did He put conditions on that? I hear the right complaining about "moochers" all the time, usually the same people who use to wear the WWJD buttons back in the 90s. I have to ask my self, did Jesus say "give everything away and come follow Me... but only give it to people who you know deserve your good will based upon your limited understanding of their life situation" I don't know about anyone else but I don't find that in my Bible.
Jesus didn't ask people if they deserved His healing, or His forgiveness, in fact in many cases its the fact that people were NOT worthy that was the whole point of the story or parable. As we remind ourselves each week before approaching the Altar, "I'm not worthy..." Yet we champion people and a system which promotes judgementalness with the primary goal being self worth, not necessarily self betterment, but self worth.
As a Pro-Life Gun toting fiscal liberal who believes in fiscal responsibility I have almost no party representation in America politics... but there are a lot of people with similar beliefs and understanding throughout the world and I believe my political beliefs appropriately reflect my religious beliefs and vice versa. It's taken years to get to this congruency. I also truly believe our Pope and I would have similar answers to almost any question in regards to politics and I pray in regards to faith as well. I'm good with that, I would much rather be in line with the Holy Father than some right wing American politican who seems to want to use God for his political gains.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong...