Trump Democrats shake up US election


#1

The largely unspoken truth that gives me shudders…See full article here:

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**Trump Democrats shake up US election

Barry Shulsky, a life-long registered Democrat, thought he would never cast a vote in another US presidential election. Then came Donald Trump.

Fed up with the economy, Congress and the Obama administration, which he says has placed more of a priority on providing amnesty to illegal immigrants than fixing the economic problems of white, working-class Americans, Mr Shulsky says he is now planning to back the Republican real estate tycoon in November, after voting for Barack Obama four years ago**.

“All [politicians] are puppets — except for Donald Trump,” Mr Shulsky, 68, declared, as he basked in an unseasonably warm March day in Front Royal, near the border with West Virginia. “Give the man four years and see what happens. He can’t make it any worse.”

“Democrats used to be better for [ordinary Americans],” he continued. “Now they’re better for immigrants.”
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As Mr Trump’s candidacy gathers steam, his campaign is drawing support from white, working-class voters frustrated with the economy and with the Washington ruling class which they believe has ceased to represent their interests.

Among them are a large group of Democrats and Democratic-leaning Independents, such as Mr Shulsky. According to a survey by Civis Analytics, Mr Trump fares best among self-identified Republicans who are actually registered Democrats (43 per cent). This demographic has already been a crucial support group for Mr Trump in the Republican primaries, and could play an even more important role in the general election.**

In Michigan, Mr Trump drew support from disaffected white voters in areas such as Macomb County, a region populated by Democrats that crossed over to support Ronald Reagan in the 1980s. His 12 percentage-point margin of victory there suggests he can do well in other Midwestern states. It mirrors recent wins among that demographic in Massachusetts and Virginia, where he also did well among working-class whites.

While Mr Obama won in 2008 and 2012 by building a diverse coalition of voters and drawing more young people, women and minorities into the Democratic party, that strategy has isolated some white, working-class voters who no longer feel represented, said Lara Brown, a political-science professor at George Washington University.

“The Democrats decided to walk away from that group of voters,” she said. “Obama couldn’t bowl at all. He was talking about arugula.”

While some of America’s urban centres see the improving job figures in their day-to-day lives, some smaller towns have not. “You have a lot of blue-collar industries that have been decimated. And many of the voters in places like western Massachusetts and Ohio and Pennsylvania have seen years and years of economic distress. We can see that in the western part of Virginia,” Ms Brown said.

Daniel Catoe, a 26-year-old construction worker, said he had voted for Mr Obama in 2008 but had been disappointed by the slow economic recovery and his rising healthcare costs, which had doubled under the Affordable Care Act.

“I haven’t pulled a 40-hour week in six months. I’ve got a mortgage and a kid and a wife to support,” Mr Catoe said. “Trump just seems like he understands what we’re out here fighting and working for.”

Following his sweeping victories in Michigan and Mississippi on Tuesday night, Mr Trump paid special homage to the Democrats and Independents who were now supporting him.

“The biggest change is what is happening in the polls,” Mr Trump said. “We have Democrats coming over. We have Independents coming over . . . We will take many, many people away who normally go Democrats. We will have people come over here and who have never, never voted Republican.”


#2

Trump is not simply the GOP’s problem, he is a national problem.

I’m starting to really worry that he may have genuine cross-party appeal because of his fascist-like aping of policies attractive to both left and right leaning white people.

Authoritarianism is gaining ground in the US, so it would seem.


#3

It sounds like many voters are hoping he will be the answer.


#4

No surprise really Obama been lying and cooking the books for years. Its no secret Trump can create jobs. And guess what the Black community hurt the most by Obama along with his fake racial war and intentional divide will vote for Trump also.


#5

I think a lot of people are hoping that Trump will be the “Obama” of the right.

(Or perhaps we should say that, eight years ago, a lot of people hoped that Obama was the “Trump” of the left.)


#6

It’s no secret that Trump has bankrupted businesses. He can do the same with the American economy. I’m just sayin. :shrug:


#7

Sounds like radio host failure Glenn Beck drama.


#8

Too late.
Jon


#9

Hence the remarkable popularity of the socialist(s) in the race, and the winner in the last two presidential elections

Jon


#10

You really think so?


#11

Let me see the- government tells me how much water can be in my toilet tank, what king of lightbulbs I have to use, who I have to sell flowers to , etc and people are worried thatTrump is authoritarian ?

I also find it somewhat curious that so many people criticize Trump for appealing to white people but praise Hillary for appealing to black people


#12

Yes, that is the impression I am getting too, and they may be right, when people see all the lifetime politicians getting worried about Trump being elected, it only makes him that much more appealing to many many people, they are in fear the ‘corrupt political machine’ that has been humming along smoothly for decades will have a wrench thrown into the gears if trump is elected.

I personally know more than a few very liberal people who are for trump 100%.


#13

If so, then the fears of political scientists are justified.

The U.S. is in the same terminal decay as the Roman Republic circa BC 49 when Caesar crossed the Rubicon and started to dismantle republican institutions with the support of the masses. 20 years later the Republic was dead and Rome had morphed into an authoritarian empire with the outward mask of a restored republic.

Caeserism is taking over America.

Many intellectuals are genuinely worried that democracy is stagnating worldwide. Just look at Europe: Hungary and Poland have been taken over by populist far-right, authoritarian movements that are trying to stifle the independence of the judiciary and close down free media outlets. If an authoritarian Putinesque figure like Trump consolidates himself in the U.S., it could spell the end for our global, liberal, constitutional order in the West of which the U.S. is the guarantor.

The order that has predominated at least since WWII and one could say even the days of the British Empire or earlier could be on the way out.


#14

I think its going to be different than many expect. The party is divided in the north and much because of Hillary. Theres a natural alliance to Obama but from there people split. Nobody is talking about Hillary.


#15

But Barry is right! (guy in story, not BHO)

Elected officials have forgotten they were elected and are paid to serve the interests of US Citizens first, not Foreign Nationals. Get a job at the UN if you want to sing Kumbaya.


#16

Obama has squeezed them, he’s hammered them to the point of desperation. And in their desperation, they turned to a man they didn’t fully understand. Thanks, Obama.


#17

I am in complete agreement with this. Donald Trump is a rough-spoken, and plain-spoken man; not totally different from Harry Truman in that respect. Some people hated Truman for it, having grown accustomed to the urbane and polished (and somewhat deceptive) style of FDR. Donald Trump’s appeal to many is that he says, often in an exaggerated way, what a great number of people are thinking but don’t feel able to say out loud.

Whether we like Trump or we don’t (I’m for Kasich) we ought to feel at least somewhat liberated in that at least one person in the campaign has dared to speak freely, if sometimes ineptly. It can be political suicide to simply speak plainly. Look at what happened to Rubio when he dared to do it and couldn’t carry it off. He couldn’t carry it off because he was expected to speak “politicalcorrectnesspeak” and, for a moment, didn’t.

Americans should rebel against having our mouths slowly sewn shut by the conventions of those who purport to be our mentors. Some do realize we’re slowly being forced into patterns of expression that ultimately channel our very thoughts. And when someone dares to break out of the mold, we get oh, so righteous and indignant about it as if, somehow, we are establishing our moral superiority by doing so.


#18

Look at the Democratic debate much of the debate was in Spanish. But Americans aren’t allowed to be offended because its not PC correct. Yet its a topic discussed over and over.


#19

Compare your own analysis with that of Martin Wolf from the UK Financial Times (probably the most reputable publication in Britain):

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**Donald Trump embodies how great republics meet their end

What is one to make of the rise of Donald Trump? It is natural to think of comparisons with populist demagogues past and present. It is natural, too, to ask why the Republican party might choose a narcissistic bully as its candidate for president. But this is not just about a party, but about a great country. The US is the greatest republic since Rome, the bastion of democracy, the guarantor of the liberal global order. It would be a global disaster if Mr Trump were to become president…

Mr Trump is a promoter of paranoid fantasies, a xenophobe and an ignoramus**. His business consists of the erection of ugly monuments to his own vanity. He has no experience of political office. Some compare him to Latin American populists…But Mr Berlusconi, unlike Mr Trump, never threatened to round up and expel millions of people. Mr Trump is grossly unqualified for the world’s most important political office.

Yet, as Robert Kagan, a neoconservative intellectual, argues in a powerful column in The Washington Post, Mr Trump is also “the GOP’s Frankenstein monster”. He is, says Mr Kagan, the monstrous result of the party’s “wild obstructionism”, its demonisation of political institutions, its flirtation with bigotry and its “racially tinged derangement syndrome” over President Barack Obama. He continues: “We are supposed to believe that Trump’s legion of ‘angry’ people are angry about wage stagnation. No, they are angry about all the things Republicans have told them to be angry about these past seven-and-a-half years”.

Mr Kagan is right, but does not go far enough. This is not about the last seven-and-a-half years. These attitudes were to be seen in the 1990s, with the impeachment of President Bill Clinton. Indeed, they go back all the way to the party’s opportunistic response to the civil rights movement in the 1960s. Alas, they have become worse, not better, with time.

Why has this happened? The answer is that this is how a wealthy donor class, dedicated to the aims of slashing taxes and shrinking the state, obtained the footsoldiers and voters it required. This, then, is “pluto-populism”: the marriage of plutocracy with rightwing populism. Mr Trump embodies this union. But he has done so by partially dumping the free-market, low tax, shrunken government aims of the party establishment, to which his financially dependent rivals remain wedded. That gives him an apparently insuperable advantage. Mr Trump is no conservative, elite conservatives complain. Precisely. That is also true of the party’s base.

Mr Trump is egregious. Yet in some respects the policies of his two leading rivals, Senators Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, are as bad. Both propose highly regressive tax cuts, just like Mr Trump. Mr Cruz even wishes to return to a gold standard. Mr Trump says that the sick should not die on the streets. Mr Cruz and Mr Rubio seem to be not quite so sure.

Yet the Trump phenomenon is not the story of just one party. It is about the country and so, inevitably, the world. In creating the American republic, the founding fathers were aware of the example of Rome. Alexander Hamilton argued in the Federalist Papers that the new republic would need an “energetic executive”. He noted that Rome itself, with its careful duplication of magistracies, depended in its hours of need on the grant of absolute, albeit temporary, power to one man, called a “dictator”.

The US would have no such office. Instead, it would have a unitary executive: the president as elected monarch. The president has limited, but great, authority…

**During the first century BC, the wealth of empire destabilised the Roman republic. In the end, Augustus, heir of the popular party, terminated the republic and installed himself as emperor. He did so by preserving all the forms of the republic, while he dispensed with their meaning.

It is rash to assume constitutional constraints would survive the presidency of someone elected because he neither understands nor believes in them.** Rounding up and deporting 11m people is an immense coercive enterprise. Would a president elected to achieve this be prevented and, if so, by whom? What are we to make of Mr Trump’s enthusiasm for the barbarities of torture?..

It is not difficult for a determined leader to do the previously unthinkable by appealing to conditions of emergency. **Both Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Delano Roosevelt did some extraordinary things in wartime. But these men knew limits. Would Mr Trump also know limits? Hamilton’s “energetic” executive is dangerous.

It was the ultra-conservative president Paul von Hindenburg who made Hitler chancellor of Germany in 1933. What made the new ruler so destructive was not only that he was a paranoid lunatic, but that he ruled a great power. Trump may be no Hitler. But the US is also no Weimar Germany. It is a vastly more important country even than that.**

Mr Trump may still fail to win the Republican nomination. But, should he do so the Republican elite will have to ask themselves hard questions — not only how this happened, but how they should properly respond. Beyond that, the American people will have to decide what sort of human being they want to put in the White House. The implications for them and for the world of this choice will be profound. Above all, Mr Trump may not prove unique. An American “Caesarism” has now become flesh. It seems a worryingly real danger today. It could return again in future.


#20

:thumbsup:


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