Trump Leads on Jerusalem; 128 U.N. Nations Go Another Direction

“The United Nations General Assembly on Thursday overwhelmingly passed a measure rejecting the Trump administration’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, which was repeatedly criticized as undermining the prospects for peace.

“Despite blunt warnings of U.S. funding cuts, 128 countries voted in favor of the nonbinding resolution and only nine voted against it. Another 35 countries abstained.”

Cool. No more monies for them, then.

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“Non-binding resolution” – in other words, not worth the paper that it was printed on.

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In the World According to Trump the U.S. veto would qualify as “rigged,” would it not?

“The U.S. blocked a United Nations Security Council vote Monday on a resolution that called on all states to refrain from building diplomatic missions in Jerusalem.

U.S. Delegate to the U.N. Nikki Haley voted against the resolution, using the United States’ veto power as a permanent member for the first time in more than six years. The Council’s other 14 members, including France and Britain, all voted in favor.”

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/18/571653304/u-s-vetoes-u-n-security-council-resolution-voiding-trumps-jerusalem-move

Sometimes it’s best just to do the right thing, regardless of what others are doing.

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Nothing the UN votes on means anything. The US or any other member of the security council can just veto it. The UN is just an instrument of US foreign policy that is respected when it agrees and ignored when it doesn’t.

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Why only U.S.? Why not Russia or one of the other permanent members of the Security Council?

Not just sometimes, but pretty much every time.

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There is such a thing as doing the right thing at the right time and in the right way in order to have the greatest chances of achieving the best outcome.

I see no evidence that this move actually made the desired outcome more likely, unless all the President intended was to make an expensive but useless gesture in order to stir people up and give the impression of a positive accomplishment.

The alternative explanation, of course, is that Donald Trump has a deeper understanding of the Middle East and more courage when it comes to doing the right thing than any other President since 1948.

Yeah, I don’t believe that, either. I don’t doubt that he does, but the self-assessments he enunciates out loud are both unusually frequent (even for a man holding public office) and consistently generous, to put it mildly.

Depends on what one thinks of as the “desired outcome”. For those who want a third Palestinian state in the West Bank and expulsion of Jews therefrom, then no, Trump’s statement will not improve the chances for the desired outcome.

If the “desired outcome” is to state what he thinks is a just outcome, and recognize the reality of the situation on the ground, then he achieved it.

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Other countries can veto. But the UN’s purpose is for the US’s ends.

Four other countries can veto. But as for the UN’s purpose being for the U.S.'s ends – that’s hilarious! The UN hasn’t been on board with U.S. foreign policy goals for decades.

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It hasn’t? How so?

Here is the press release from the United Nations today:

The General Assembly voted overwhelmingly during a rare emergency meeting today to ask nations not to establish diplomatic missions in the historic city of Jerusalem, as delegates warned that the recent decision by the United States to do so risked igniting a religious war across the already turbulent Middle East and even beyond.

By a recorded vote of 128 in favour to 9 against (Guatemala, Honduras, Israel, Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, Togo, United States), with 35 abstentions, the Assembly adopted the resolution “Status of Jerusalem”, by which it declared “null and void” any actions intended to alter Jerusalem’s character, status or demographic composition. Calling on all States to refrain from establishing embassies in the Holy City, it also demanded that they comply with all relevant Security Council resolutions and work to reverse the “negative trends” imperilling a two‑State resolution of the Israeli‑Palestinian conflict.

“We meet today not because of any animosity to the United States of America,” insisted Riad Al‑Malki, Minister for Foreign Affairs of the State of Palestine. Instead, the emergency session had been called to make the voice of the vast majority of the international community — and that of people around the world — heard on the question of Jerusalem/Al‑Quds Al‑Sharif. He described the 6 December decision by the United States to recognize the city as Israel’s capital, and to move its embassy there, as an aggressive and dangerous move, cautioning that it could inflame tensions and lead to a religious war that “has no boundaries”.

https://www.un.org/press/en/2017/ga11995.doc.htm

Are they serious about this? Let’s see. ISIS was recently evicted from most of Iraq and Syria. Religious warfare is going on in Yemen and in various African states. Shiite Assad, Shiite Iran and Russia just defeated Sunni rebels in Syria by bombing and gassing civilians, and a Sunni-Shiite war may yet break out between Iran and Saudi ARabia. Libya is a failed state due to religious war. And there are religion-based attacks in Europe and the U.S. And, of course, Hamas has been targeting Israeli civilians for decades.

Israel and some Arab states are virtual allies. Disaster talk is cheap.

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“Former CIA Director John Brennan slammed President Trump in a tweet Thursday, saying the president shows ‘qualities usually found in narcissistic, vengeful autocrats.’
Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump, posted the comment shortly after joining Twitter on Thursday. He condemned Trump’s tough stance against critics of his declaration of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

“ ‘Trump Admin threat to retaliate against nations that exercise sovereign right in UN to oppose US position on Jerusalem is beyond outrageous,’ tweeted Brennan, who led the CIA under former President Obama.

" ‘Shows @realDonaldTrump expects blind loyalty and subservience from everyone—qualities usually found in narcissistic, vengeful autocrats,’ he added.”

This outburst tells us a lot more about Brennan than it does about Trump. Trump says we might not feed hands that bite us and Brennan gets the vapors and starts throwing around epithets like “narcissistic, vengeful, autocratic”. And why? Because Trump not only didn’t have Nikki Haley “abstain” like Obama did on the last anti-Semitic eructation of that far-from-venerable institution the UN, but actually said he might acknowledge unfriendly acts toward our nation as unfriendly.

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I was going to just :heart: your post, but by the time I finished reading it, I wanted to stand up and applaud. Well said.

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By no means clear.

This doesn’t surprise me. I am glad Nikki Haley gave her great speech.

21 nations were not present and 35 chose not to vote.

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