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I think that Trump’s neutral stance toward Israel and Palestine makes sense. A party that claims to be a peacemaker should not take sides before negotiations begin.

This topic seems confusing to me.

Both sides always talk about Israel being our friend, yet I have seen people say Israel should not have our support.

FollowChrist34, you asked if I think Trump will run third-party if he doesn’t win the GOP nominations. I don’t know if he would; but I say let him take the low road if he wants to. Much better than him getting the nomination and us taking the low road (i.e. running Kasich or whoever as our own third-party candidate).

Well, for sure it would be counter intuitive to what he just stated 2 weeks ago.

realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/05/trump_warns_against_third_party_challenge_promises_to_appoint_conservative_supreme_court_justices.html

But imho that is the right thinking now I suppose it possible he could break his commitment as others apparently have in the RNC.

As a Catholic, how do I right myself with the violence I see. I feel embarrassed for our nation because we have a leading nominee for president who seems to condone violence. Is that reasonable for me to think, or am I just being silly?

Based on what Trump is saying, I doubt that he’s going to take advice from people who know better than him about certain things:

The bombastic star of Celebrity Apprentice also refused to bow to pressure to name his foreign policy advisers amid concerns that his erratic comments on the Middle East were alarming US allies.

“I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things,” he said. “My primary consultant is myself and I have – you know, I have a good instinct for this stuff.”

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/16/donald-trump-republican-party-nomination-convention-process

This kind of comment by Trump makes me feel very reassured since we all know that Trump knows about everything including foreign policy and doesn’t need anyone’s advice but his own. :rolleyes:

Me too as he does with Iran and Putin-Ukraine. The idea Cruz promotes is not realistic its political naivety though in reality he too I believe in the same situation will result in negotiation. One would hope anyway.

Trump’s choice for National Security is Senator Jeff Sessions; so Sessions views are plenty valid versus lawless despots in this world.

That has been a worry ever since Trump said that there are “two Donald Trumps”.

thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/272666-trump-there-are-two-donald-trumps

I guess the question is: are you okay with Sen Cruz (who, I have to admit, was not my first choice)? Enough so to help us nominate him (and thereby stop Trump)?

I absolutely do. I guess what I was getting at is: Let’s say Trump becomes the nominee. What can I do to show that I am absolutely horrified by the ideas that I see. Like mocking disables, calling for violence, calling for killing of families and kids, etc. I know that voting and supporting a different candidate is one way, but what do I do when most people just seem to ignore these facts?

calling for violence,

I don’t see where anyone addressed the points by Tom and myself with the proposed Cruz violence. Seems to be a double standard where we omit the Cruz war mongering.

I think that Trump’s neutral stance toward Israel and Palestine makes sense. A party that claims to be a peacemaker should not take sides before negotiations begin.

Me too as he does with Iran and Putin-Ukraine. The idea Cruz promotes is not realistic its political naivety though in reality he too I believe in the same situation will result in negotiation. One would hope anyway.

what do I do when most people just seem to ignore these facts?

I think he’s very shrewd about such things

Are these the same people that already solved the Israel conflict, and got us into our current mess in the Middle East?

Cool :thumbsup:, at this point I think Cruz “needs every friend he can get”, as they say. :o :slight_smile:

I guess what I was getting at is: Let’s say Trump becomes the nominee. What can I do to show that I am absolutely horrified by the ideas that I see. Like mocking disables, calling for violence, calling for killing of families and kids, etc. I know that voting and supporting a different candidate is one way, but what do I do when most people just seem to ignore these facts?

Good question. I don’t have a specific plan for if Trump becomes the nominee; but I’m hoping, if we one day face that reality, I’ll honestly say “Well, I’ve tried my best not to let this happen.”

Of all the things said about Trump, to me this is the least worrisome, if it’s worthy of worry at all. There are at least “two” of everybody. There is the lawyer who is sometimes solicitous and kind, then hard-edged and entrapping. There is the businessman who drives a stiff bargain, but then sends the counterparty a turkey at Thanksgiving. There is the kindly doctor who sometimes gets stern with his patient when the patient does not follow advice. There is the priest who is kindly, but nevertheless refuses to budge when we try to justify bad behavior like leaving our spouse for the “true love of my life”.

My only objection to the statement is that there are probably more than just two Donald Trumps, as is true of almost everybody.

I’d be a little careful with that. In today’s PC society a lot of people support Palestine in large part because they want to impress Muslims, but if one talks to Arabs and Muslims in Israel, many of them, it’s been reported, do not want a religious Islamic government like their neighbors have.

Also, it’s :cool: today by progressive standards to not support Israel, although one wonders why since many of the countries in the region do exactly what liberals hysterically accuse the TEA PARTY of wanting to do and then some.

Well, I’ve gone from Walker to Carson to Cruz. If the people who want to stop Trump take their mission seriously, they need to stop backing Bernie and Kasich and get on board.

  1. Sanders was never going to get the DNC nomination. The Democratic Party system is rigged. And I know some of the Sanders supporters aren’t “democratic socialists” but are just sending the DNC a message. Sanders will not be the nominee.

  2. Regarding Kasich, the GOP will be hard pressed to give the nomination to someone who probably won’t even win 15% of the primary vote and is seen as more establishment. Kasich has good numbers against Clinton for now, but his niceness would be perfect prey for the Clinton Machine. So on the hand, Trump is very bombastic, on the other, Kasich has the soft touch.

The balance here is Cruz. And he’s in second and is the only one who can stop Trump from being the nominee.

“Those who love Trump—and those who loathe him—should think more carefully about the importance of free speech.”

“As with Islam, it’s best not to question the belief system of the left, because it is protected by strict blasphemy laws. If you disagree with the tenets of leftists, you are not, from their perspective, entitled to your opinion, you are committing blasphemy. And you deserve to be punished.”

The Left’s War On Free Speech

As the leader of the free world, I don’t think the United States can take a neutral stance. It works for Switzerland, but their entire population is only about 7-8 million. People don’t care too much what side their on, if any.

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