U.S. is denying passports to Americans along the border, throwing their citizenship into question


#1

And they all are brown - go figure…


#3

Some have already had passports issued and were renewing.

This is crazy.


#5

For those who aren’t Washington Post subscribers, this version in the LA Times doesn’t seem to be behind a paywall.


#7

#8

Well good for Donald Trump. It took a lot of courage to end Obama’s misguided policy of denying passports to US citizens based on the color of the skin…


#9

Nope. This has already been decided years ago.

2009

“A 2009 government settlement in a case litigated by the American Civil Liberties Union seemed like it had mostly put an end to the passport denials. Attorneys reported that the number of denials declined during the rest of the Obama administration, and the government settled promptly when people filed complaints after being denied passports.”

If you had clicked on my post you would have seen the date of the decision.


#10

You seemed to have missed this
" A 2009 government settlement in a case litigated by the American Civil Liberties Union seemed to have mostly put an end to the passport denials. Attorneys reported that the number of denials declined during the rest of the Obama administration, and the government settled promptly when people filed complaints after being denied passports.

But under President Trump, the passport denials and revocations appear to be surging, becoming part of a broader interrogation into the citizenship of people who have lived, voted and worked in the United States for their entire lives."


#11

Thank you. It was decided in 2009.

The date was clear in my post.


#12

You seemed to have missed this …

A 2009 government settlement in a case litigated by the American Civil Liberties Union seemed like it had mostly put an end to the passport denials. Attorneys reported that the number of denials declined during the rest of the Obama administration, and the government settled promptly when people filed complaints after being denied passports.

But under President Trump, the passport denials and revocations appear to be surging, becoming part of a broader interrogation into the citizenship of people who have lived, voted and worked in the United States for their entire lives.

“We’re seeing these kind of cases skyrocketing,” said Jennifer Correro, an attorney in Houston who is defending dozens of people who have been denied passports.

Moreover, it is worth looking into that lawsuit:


Note that the government actions that were at cause in the suit occured prior to January 20, 2009.


#13

So they don’t have any hard data…just a feeling that it might be surging, because as everybody at the WaPo knows, just knows, Trump and his supporters are racists who hate brown people…


#14

You must not have read the article that you, your very own self, posted:
“But under President Trump, the passport denials and revocations appear to be surging, becoming part of a broader interrogation into the citizenship of people who have lived, voted and worked in the United States for their entire lives.”

And, the earlier policy had already ended. Under, guess who? Obama.
“A 2009 government settlement in a case litigated by the American Civil Liberties Union seemed like it had mostly put an end to the passport denials. Attorneys reported that the number of denials declined during the rest of the Obama administration, and the government settled promptly when people filed complaints after being denied passports.”


#16

I did see that, and quoted it. So what we have here is a policy that started under Obama, under went some minor changes due to legal challenge, and then continued under Trump, when the policy suddenly becomes racist because…reasons. And people wonder why #FakeNews continues to gain traction.


#17

Look at the date of the lawsuit compared to when Obama was inaugurated.

Seriously.

January 20, 2009 was the inauguration.

The lawsuit was brought Feb 2008.


#18

When Juan, the former soldier, received a letter from the State Department telling him it wasn’t convinced that he was a U.S. citizen, it requested a range of obscure documents — evidence of his mother’s prenatal care, his baptismal certificate, rental agreements from when he was a baby.
He managed to find some of those documents but weeks later received another denial. In a letter, the government said the information “did not establish your birth in the United States.”
“I thought to myself, you know, I’m going to have to seek legal help,” said Juan, who earns $13 an hour as a prison guard and expects to pay several thousand dollars in legal fees.

In a case last August, a 35-year-old Texas man with a U.S. passport was interrogated while crossing back into Texas from Mexico with his son at the ­McAllen-Hidalgo-Reynosa International Bridge, connecting Reynosa, Mexico, to McAllen, Tex.
His passport was taken from him, and Customs and Border Protection agents told him to admit that he was born in Mexico, according to documents later filed in federal court. He refused and was sent to the Los Fresnos Detention Center and entered into deportation proceedings.
He was released three days later, but the government scheduled a deportation hearing for him in 2019. His passport, which had been issued in 2008, was revoked.


#19

Really?

When you are so deep int the hole, it is advisable to stop digging.


#20

Deportation hearing for a US born citizen.

God have mercy on us. :frowning:


#22

From the article:

Based on those suspicions, the State Department began during Barack Obama’s administration to deny passports to people who were delivered by midwives in Texas’ Rio Grande Valley. The use of midwives is a long-standing tradition in the region, in part because of the cost of hospital care.

I’m responding to the OP’s article. If you think the article is wrong, that’s something you should take up with the OP or the Washington Post. According to the article, the policy of denying passports to supposed (supposed because the article also mentions that doctors and mid-wives in the Rio Grande Valley did issue birth certificates, and therefore US citizenship to people who were born in Mexico which is why Obama instituted the policy) US citizens started under the Obama administration.


#23

Then there is this right after…
A 2009 government settlement in a case litigated by the American Civil Liberties Union seemed like it had mostly put an end to the passport denials. Attorneys reported that the number of denials declined during the rest of the Obama administration, and the government settled promptly when people filed complaints after being denied passports.


#24

ucfengr
why not just own it. This is exactly what Trumps base want…
But then again who knows what his base knows/believe. Since Trump has just said…
Do not believe the FBI, Justice dept, or the media…
Only believe me…
Just what you would expect a misogynist despot to say…
So he is true to form there.


#25

So they started a lawsuit as time travelers.

Because that’s what you’ve got.


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