Votive Mass of the Holy Family?


#1

It's a long story, and details don't matter, but I need to know if it's permissible to celebrate a votive Mass of the Holy Family. From what I've seen in the missal, you can do that with any Mass from the proper of saints, but Holy Family is found in the proper of time.

If yes, can you please show me the rubric? I need that as well to show the celebrant.

Do note that this is just planned for an ordinary time weekday, so that is all fine.

I am the MC for him, so please don't get on me for trying to boss around the priest. He have a good relationship, and he leaves the liturgical planning up to me and my judgement.

Sooo... can one celebrate a votive Mass of the Holy Family? If not, is there a Mass "for the family" or anything like that?


#2

I Googled "votive Mass of the Holy Family" and precisely nothing relevant came up.


#3

Not a Votive Mass, but a Mass for Various Needs and Occasions, "12. For the family."

Behold, the orations and antiphons from the Roman Missal (p. 1262):

Entrance Antiphon: (Ephesians 6: 2–3)
Honor your father and mother.

This is the first commandment with a promise,
that it may go well with you
and that you may have a long life on earth.
Collect:
O God, in whose eternal design
family life has its firm foundation,
look with compassion on the prayers of your servants
and grant that, following the example
of the Holy Family of your Only Begotten Son
in practicing the virtues of family life and in the bonds of charity,
we may, in the joy of your house,
delight one day in eternal rewards. Through our Lord Jesus Christ, your Son,
who lives and reigns with you in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
one God, for ever and ever.
Prayer over the Offerings:
We offer you, Lord, the sacrifice of conciliation,
humbly asking that you may establish our families
firmly in your grace and your peace.

Through Christ our Lord.
Communion Antiphon: (Isaiah 49: 15)
Can a mother forget her infant?

Even should she forget, I will never forget you, says the Lord.
Prayer after Communion:
Bring those you refresh with this heavenly Sacrament,
most merciful Father,
to imitate constantly the example
of the Holy Family of your Only Begotten Son,
so that, after the trials of this world,
they may share their company for ever.

Through Christ our Lord.

And from our friend, the Graduale Romanum, we have nothing, unfortunately.


#4

[quote="JGMendes4049, post:3, topic:292267"]
Not a Votive Mass, but a Mass for Various Needs and Occasions, "12. For the family."

Behold, the orations and antiphons from the Roman Missal (p. 1262):

Entrance Antiphon: (Ephesians 6: 2–3)
Honor your father and mother.

This is the first commandment with a promise,
that it may go well with you
and that you may have a long life on earth.
Collect:
O God, in whose eternal design
family life has its firm foundation,
look with compassion on the prayers of your servants
and grant that, following the example
of the Holy Family of your Only Begotten Son
in practicing the virtues of family life and in the bonds of charity,
we may, in the joy of your house,
delight one day in eternal rewards. Through our Lord Jesus Christ, your Son,
who lives and reigns with you in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
one God, for ever and ever.
Prayer over the Offerings:
We offer you, Lord, the sacrifice of conciliation,
humbly asking that you may establish our families
firmly in your grace and your peace.

Through Christ our Lord.
Communion Antiphon: (Isaiah 49: 15)
Can a mother forget her infant?

Even should she forget, I will never forget you, says the Lord.
Prayer after Communion:
Bring those you refresh with this heavenly Sacrament,
most merciful Father,
to imitate constantly the example
of the Holy Family of your Only Begotten Son,
so that, after the trials of this world,
they may share their company for ever.

Through Christ our Lord.

And from our friend, the Graduale Romanum, we have nothing, unfortunately.

[/quote]

Thank you! I didn't see that. That's exactly what I need, Joseph. Luckilly I'm MCing not singing this Mass. I'm sure the cantor will find something appropriate from the graduale. Maybe the propers for the Holy Family!


#5

[quote="superamazingman, post:4, topic:292267"]
Thank you! I didn't see that. That's exactly what I need, Joseph. Luckilly I'm MCing not singing this Mass. I'm sure the cantor will find something appropriate from the graduale. Maybe the propers for the Holy Family!

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Good luck! Let me know if you need anything else.


#6

Thanks! I actually have a graduale and missal, so I should be good. Not sure why I didn’t see that in there.


#7

[quote="superamazingman, post:1, topic:292267"]
It's a long story, and details don't matter, but I need to know if it's permissible to celebrate a votive Mass of the Holy Family. From what I've seen in the missal, you can do that with any Mass from the proper of saints, but Holy Family is found in the proper of time.

If yes, can you please show me the rubric? I need that as well to show the celebrant.

Do note that this is just planned for an ordinary time weekday, so that is all fine.

I am the MC for him, so please don't get on me for trying to boss around the priest. He have a good relationship, and he leaves the liturgical planning up to me and my judgement.

Sooo... can one celebrate a votive Mass of the Holy Family? If not, is there a Mass "for the family" or anything like that?

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I would say "yes". The rubric (GIRM 375) is identical to the rubric of the earlier (1962) liturgical books - mysteries of the life of the Lord and the Virgin cannot be celebrated as votives with the exception of the Immaculate Conception.

However, in the earlier liturgical books, before the rubric forbidding celebration of the mysteries in the life of the Lord, there is an enumeration of Masses that are not considered as relating to mysteries in the life of the Lord, and the Holy Family is listed there, along with the Trinity, Sacred Heart, etc., etc.


#8

:banghead:

For some reason I thought you were talking about the EF and so I spent about an hour digging through my copies of the 1962, 1894, 1719, and 1621 Missals.


#9

[quote="YoungTradCath, post:8, topic:292267"]
:banghead:

For some reason I thought you were talking about the EF and so I spent about an hour digging through my copies of the 1962, 1894, 1719, and 1621 Missals.

[/quote]

Well, he didn't specifically say the OF. :)


#10

[quote="JGMendes4049, post:9, topic:292267"]
Well, he didn't specifically say the OF. :)

[/quote]

My presumption shows how much of a truly red-blooded trad I am.


#11

[quote="YoungTradCath, post:8, topic:292267"]
:banghead:

For some reason I thought you were talking about the EF and so I spent about an hour digging through my copies of the 1962, 1894, 1719, and 1621 Missals.

[/quote]

Sorry! Knowing what sort of people would answer, I should have specified, especially knowing you! :)

thanks for the help everyone.


#12

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