Hello dear friends
I have been talking to an Evangelical, who wanted to know a bit more about my views and Catholicism. Eventually we talked about salvation. I will show you a passage of our discussion; i would like to have your opinionson how to show that sin is more than just a mistake, but a real offense, andthat penance is needed when we have sinned, as well as works are also needed as much as faith.
what do you do of Romans 5 and 6?
Wat about it
Let me read
For the wedges of sin is death
and you mean one dies in sin
Wages of sin is death
Its why Christ died
He had to die
So that we may be forgiven
but if we sin as christians?
I told you
We ask for forgivenes
so no matter what we do?
As long as we dont do it intentionally, we wil be forgiven
We will always sin. But follow Jesus and you will not sin intentionally again
and what we do intentionally?
Then you are going away from God and you are not following His teachings and not having any faith with Him at all. We are Saved THROUGH Grace BY FAITH!
As i said this is how i view it
*Now, I can’t start with him with the difference between venial and mortal sin, nor the fact that you still have to pay for your sin, even if the punishment has been paid for you by Jesus, because you are part of His body and that your free will gives you responsabilities, also to respond of your actions…How to show that it is possible to (intentionally) sin even if we believe? Surely we may not want it, but some say they believe (and they do) and sin without a problem, for the same reason: they think they will be forgiven. I think it is dangerous, but then i am ask Why don’t I trust God about forgiveness.
Fair enough: but what of the sins we do unintentionally? It sounds like since we can trust God, these aren’t problems at all. And then I come back to Romans 5 and 6: We shouldn’t take advantage of God’s mercy, and Paul is quite clear? Should we sin because Chrsit died, or because forgiveness may come? Surely not.
So, how to show this is also true of venial sin? How to show that sin is sin and demands action against it, and not a passive behaviour? I thought of the End of Times, where Jesus says to the people on His left: I don’t know you. But this is, according to him, people who sins intentionally only. I would have thought Since they tried to follow Jesus, they didn’t think to sin. So it has to be a problem with charity, this reason why they are told to go away from Him. *