[quote="stanmaxkolbe, post:3, topic:178501"]
I was stationed in Germany in 1981 was this young Buck Sergeant with a 4th Infantry Division patch on his right sleeve. In the Army if you have a patch on your right sleeve that is the unit you served in combat with. The patch on the left is your current unit you’re stationed with.
Well I’m looking at the guy and he looked younger than me and I was too young to serve in Vietnam I’m a Vietnam era vet but I was never in the Nam. I studied Vietnam a lot because my brother was there and when I first joined the army they were still doing Vietnam training and my second duty assignment was in Central America where jungle training came into good use.
So I started talking to the guy and he told me he was in Vietnam but only six months and then they pulled the Division back to the World. That’s when alarm bells started ringing in my head because I knew the 4th Infantry Division only had one battalion left in Vietnam and it was pulled back to the States in 1972. This guy was lying.
I also noticed his pay voucher never made it to the platoon office. I found out later from the orderly room clerk that he came and picked up his pay voucher. Because a pay voucher shows your total years of service even if you gotten out of the service and came back in it combines those years.
Well the about year into his tour he took leave back to the World and I picked up the platoons pay voucher’s and guess what he’s only been in the service 5 years. I told the First Sergeant and when he got back to Germany he made him rip off the patch.
He found out I reported him and came to me ticked off I told him to get out of my face your disrespecting all those combat vets. If you want to throw down; anytime baby because your disrespecting my own brother.
The story doesn’t end here. He gets stationed back to the World goes in front of a promotion board [this guy is not the brightest light bulb]. On a promotion board the President of the board had you records [field 201 file] in front of him.
Of course the NCO’s on this board are all Vietnam vets. This guy walks in reports to the President of the board. Guess what he has that 4th Infantry Division patch on his Class A’s. Well you don’t tick off a bunch of Nam vets they had him busted down two grades. What an idiot! I was not there I was told about this a few years later.
I also remember when the Rambo movies came out there was a lot of people claiming they were Vietnam vets why people do this I don’t know.
When I was stationed in Alaska in the Air Force, we had a senior airman who went down to some local surplus store and picked up a whole bunch of surplus ribbons, and (very stupidly) put them on his dress blues. I was in the Squadron HQ one day (what we called the "Head Shed") when this guy came in, and he was stopped in the hallway by the squadron commander. I was maybe about twenty feet away, waiting for the 1st sergeant to return so I could complete my business, so I saw this whole thing take place. The colonel said, "That's quite a fruit salad you have there, son. Are you sure you're entitled to all those ribbons?"
The senior airman looked a little nervous, but he replied, "Oh, yes, sir!" The colonel pointed to one of the ribbons and asked, "Tell me, what's this one for?" The senior airman replied, "I'm not sure if I remember, sir." The colonel said, "Well, I can tell you what it's for---it's for service in the Spanish-American War. And this one here is for the Occupation of Cuba, and this one is for service in the 1875 Indian Wars. I want to see you in my office. Now."
The senior airman was looking mighty pale when he emerged, and I heard later that he'd been busted down to an airman first class and gotten an Article 15 to boot.