What do people say about Fr Michel Rodrigue

The faithful who pray and stay close to Our Lady and close to the Church won’t be led astray because they won’t go putting a lot of their eggs into the basket of an unapproved apparition.

It’s okay to go to Medj to pray or to go to confession - although I have no idea why it’s called “the confessional of Europe” when all those Europeans going there certainly have churches back home with priests in them willing to hear their confession without them having to travel far away.

But if you’re going to Medj to get in on “the latest apparitions” then that’s probably not the best reason to go.

And if you want to “know the truth”, then read Scripture and the Catechism. You don’t need to follow apparitions to get “the truth” and frankly that is the wrong reason to look to apparitions.

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I don’t know who that is

I think this is exactly what I needed to hear.
Thank you for this reminder.

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I agree with what has been said so far about all of these alleged mystics and visionaries. I made up my mind a long time ago not to get into this stuff. I am prone to anxiety so I just choose to avoid it. A friend of mine once told me when I came into the Church, if it’s not necessary for holiness, don’t bother with it, especially if it disturbs you. There’s just too much of it. Plus, some of these people start off saying things that line up with Church teaching but then they go off the rails as time goes on.

For instance, a strong Catholic guy I know who lives in another U.S. state knows this woman who is supposed to be a modern day prophet. She has even consulted with a bishop or two. She has many followers. However, he told me that she has recently been saying very weird things about aliens and bigfoot and "other’ spirits who show up in their prayer meetings. (And she is not the only one who has experienced things like this.)

This woman happens to be very involved in the Charismatic movement. I don’t mean to imply that all those involved in the Charismatic movement are weird and going around talking about aliens. It’s just that when you open yourself up to spiritual experiences, a lot of things can happen. We can be easily fooled as the Scripture says. We have to be very careful. So I think it would be wise to take a wait and see approach with this particular priest.

Move away from all the apocalyptic stuff if it’s bothering you and get involved in really learning the Catholic Faith. Think of it this way: Chances are, the end of the world isn’t going to happen in your lifetime. If not, you will have wasted countless hours reading things from supposed prophets that didn’t matter at all.

You asked–How do we recognize false teaching from within the Church? We have to know our faith. Read the Scriptures and the Catechism. If you don’t want to tackle the full Catechism right away you can read the shorter Compendium of the Catechism. It’s in Q & A format. There are also tons of books and articles and videos here at Catholic Answers that can teach you a lot about the Catholic faith. I would stick with materials from CA, EWTN and Ignatius Press. You can trust that with them you will get an orthodox presentation of Catholicism that is based on Scripture and Tradition. Once you learn the Faith, then you’ll recognize error when you hear it and you can discern better.

As far as the Novus Ordo: You can raise good, loving Catholic kids in the Novus Ordo. To me, everything is balance. As long as there are no liturgical abuses going on, you can stick mostly with the NO. The one I go to is very reverent. If you want to go to a Traditional Latin Mass sometimes because you feel it’s more reverent and inspires you more, feel free. But I don’t feel it’s necessary to go all in on any one thing.

Continued…

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I know of too many people who are staunchly anti-NO and who would never go anywhere but a TLM but they are not loving and caring people. They drive people away by their attitudes. They know their Faith really well but they hold grudges against people. There is evident pride there. They would be better off putting more focus on love and forgiveness and less on defending the TLM. It seems to become an obsession and they forget about love. Obviously, not all are like that but going all in on anything tends to diminish love.

If you’re going to go all-in on anything let it be love, forgiveness and humility! We need all of our energy to work on love and not becoming focused on a particular path within Catholicism that really, at the end of the day, doesn’t have anything to do with love. Remember, that is all we’re going to be judged on is love, not what type of Mass we went to. Focus on love, love your kids, teach them to love and forgive and teach them what holiness is and why it matters. Teach them to pray. Pray as a family.

God Bless, I hope this helps!

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This does help. I love this.

Regarding the NO vs TLM, your words are similar to how Fr Josh Johnson answered the question awhile ago in his podcast, “Ask Fr Josh,” saying that since both are liturgically acceptable, either can be good for you and either can be bad for you depending on whether it’s lifting you up to God in love or leading you to pride.

For my own part, I began doubting my use of the NO with my kids, four of whom are teens and love the teen mass, as do I, when a very large group of our devout friends left the parish two years ago when an Ordinariate parish opened up close nearby. While I’m happy for them that they are enjoying the traditional, yet in English, form of the mass, my family will not be moving there for a number of reasons, first and foremost because our current parish priest has helped my wife and I through a very difficult time in the past few years and we feel we owe him a certain amount of loyalty.

At any rate, while I don’t get the sense from most of our friends who now attend the Ordinariate mass that they think they’re better than us, I have gotten that sense from time to time when I hear of some things the priest has said, such as, allegedly, that “this is the way the mass is supposed to be said.”

Whether or not that statement is accurate in any way, it makes me wonder, what IF the Novus Ordo in all its easing up has lost a certain dignity. What if, even though, as you said, @tommy37, it’s more about how we LOVE, not what type of mass we go to, what if we’re missing out on an abundance of graces that we would be receiving if we were giving God the proper respect that maybe we’d only know how to give if formed in the TLM?

I recognize that switching my teenagers to either the TLM or the Ordinariate cold turkey would certainly not miraculously put us all in a state of being able to give God due honor during a mass, especially if my kids (and wife) were spending the entire mass missing their usual.

But I guess these thoughts are just creating a recognition in me that we are so caught up as an entire people of God with the sins and errors of those around us, and those before us. We truly are paying the price, whether it’s missing out on some graces or otherwise being forced to deal with the consequences, of our parents’ sins three and four generations back.

Like the Israelites who all had to eat the dust of the golden calf, whether they were the instigators of its creation or simply bystanders who said nothing, we will all be chastised and blessed, in some way, due to the evil and the good that we engage in as a unified bride of Christ.

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The RC church won’t be jumping to any conclusions about apparitions revealed to Fr Rodrigue any time soon. They tend to keep a neutral stance about these things and probably for our sake we probably should also. If he was chosen to reveal a special message to the world it will be done according to God’s will.

Thanks for the reply! I agree that there is definitely more of a sense of reverence and mystery with the TLM and the altar rails and such. But I guess I just feel that as long as Transubstantiation is still happening in the NO, then the graces are going to flow. If we receive his Real Presence, then there will be grace. I don’t know that there are going to be more graces in the TLM. It may be more emotionally satisfying depending upon our tastes but we still have to do our part by rejecting sin, practicing virtue, engaging our will, etc, regardless of what Mass we go to. I think if we do these things, the graces will flow regardless. That’s the way I see it at least.

Back to the original topic, I received a response from the bishop of Fr. Rodrigue’s diocese, who I emailed a week ago. I received permission to share his response, which pretty tidily answers the question of whether these revelations should be given attention:

Here is the response of Monsignor Gilles Lemay to your request concerning Father Michel Rodrigue:

Peace be with you :

I thank you for your e-mail requesting some information about the teaching and the standing of Father Michel Rodrigue, a priest incardinated in the diocese of Hearst-Moosonee, Ontario, and working in this diocese of Amos, Québec, for a few years. He is the founder of the Fraternité Saint-Benoît-Joseph-Labre , a lay association of the faithful which is not a religious institute.

As you probably did too, I read on the Countdown to the Kingdom website related to Fr Michel and also in the book of Christine Watkins, The Warning. Testimonies and Prophecies the Illumination of Conscience (Note 84, p. 278 and p. 280), that : “ Michel Rodrigue receives the full support of his bishop, and all of his locutions and visions are submitted to his local ordinary for approval. “ This quotation was removed these days from the website after a request I sent to Fr Michel. No mention is made of the reason for the removal, that is to say: because it was untrue. However, the quotation remains in the book mentioned above.

I have to tell you that Fr Michel never submitted to me any of his locutions and visions for discernment or approval. Accordingly, I could not have supported the content of his talks which are not presented in my diocese nor elsewhere in the Province of Québec as far as I now, but mostly in the United States. Moreover, I learnt about his teaching while reading some reports on the website mentioned above. I did not and I do not approve his teaching with regard to his locutions and visions. Consequently, it is untrue that he “receives the full support of his bishop” as it is written in the Countdown to the Kingdom website and in the quoted book.

I thank you for your request. If you wish any further information, I will be pleased to respond as much as possible.

Truly yours in Christ,

+ Gilles Lemay,

Bishop of Amos, Quebec

Raymond Martel, prêtre
Vicaire général au diocèse d’Amos
[450, Rue Principale Nord]
[Amos, Qc]
(Canada) J9T 2M1

Tél. [819-732-6515 Poste 206]

[vicairegeneral@diocese-amos.org]

[www.diocese-amos.org]

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Thank you very much. I will be sharing this with other groups who are posting videos by Fr. Michel.

God bless.

Very interesting! That’s amazing that you contacted the bishop and that he responded to you! Kudos! Things are not always what they seem.

He’s been in my suggested as I follow Fr. Mark Goring.

Fr Michael Rodrigue looks questionable like a lot of doomsday prophets out there.

I’m hesitant to believe in any or most apparitions after Akita not to say there aren’t authentic ones but I think Medjugorie is heretical the idea of Mary dropping the infant Christ or of universalism.

I’m very skeptical Our Lady has a pattern in her messages for every generation it’s the same some of these newer messages are out there.

@Governator, Fr. Mark Goring’s video a week or two ago is what led me to this priest also! Maybe I should let Fr. Goring know that in fact the bishops have not yet approved anything of Fr Rodrigue’s supposed visions. It’s too bad that institutions in the U.S. have hosted him as a speaker without going through the proper fact-checking channels, further adding confusion to an already confused church.

@tommy37, yes, I was surprised and pleased to get a response at all, let alone one that makes it clear his excellency actually looked into the matter within just a week of my writing him! That’s one point for the team against what Patrick Coffin likes to refer to as the “weaponized ambiguity of the church.”

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I’m willing to bet that your query was not the only one that His Excellency has been getting on this subject. Probably getting quite a few in his in-box.

Thank-you for sharing the Bishop’s clarification. I noticed that the “Countdown to the Kingdom” website posted that all mention of “the bishop’s approval” was removed from the website a few days ago.

I frequently browse Catholic content on YouTube, and only last night encountered what appeared to be a series of homilies or sermons given by Fr. Rodrigue at Knock, Ireland. My impression of the man was of one who genuinely loves Christ, loves his Church, and appears to be “the real deal.” He is an engaging speaker, and nothing he said “raised a red flag” with me. Pay attention to his admonishments - what he was admonishing his audience to do or not to do. I like this priest.

But the “Countdown to the Kingdom” website seems to be a collection of stuff that I ordinarily avoid, or at least, take with a hefty grain of salt. She seems to be exploiting Fr. Rodrigue, which is unfortunate. Nothing on her website is going to make me head for the hills to await the imminent destruction of the world. I have no plans of reading her book. I hopped over to this forum and was not surprised that all you usual suspects were all over this operation. Good on you…

Not sure if your letter to the Bishop had anything to do with this recent announcement, which I just saw posted on another website. I’m glad things have been clarified in any event. Though I’m not sure how the Bishop can “withdraw” support that he apparently never provided in the first place…

It’s also now posted on the front page of the Countdown to the Kingdom website, which I will not link here so I do not violate the forum rules.

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Hello, I’d like to enter into this conversation about Fr. Michel Rodrigue whom I discovered after reading Christine Watkins’ book and watching some videos made of his retreats. I have little doubt that he is authentic. His former bishop gave him many responsibilites: seminary professor, hospital chaplain, parish priest, and exorcist. When he applied to the Vatican (PBXVI) to start his new order, its proposed Rule was approved entirely without the slightest change.

I’m a 71-yr-old cradle Catholic whose faith was set on fire 49 years ago through the Holy Spirit (Acts 1:5), as Our Blessed Lord promised to His disciples. My love for Holy Mother Church and for Scripture has only grown since then. In terms of this discussion, I would ask all of my fellow Catholics, and all Christians, to realize that we today are living not at the beginning of the Gospel, but towards its end. St. PJPII frequently told us (1976 as cardinal, 1982 as pope in Fulda, Germany, etc.) that we are living in the final confrontation between Christ and the anti-Christ. Lucia of Fatima told her spiritual director that “the Blessed Virgin has indicated to me that we are living in the last days.”
Jesus told St. Faustina (approved) countless times that the Day of His judgment is very near, and THAT was the reason for His very special outpouring of Mercy in these days. Sadly, our Divine Mercy devotions omit this. Of course, Our Lord Jesus instructed us that no man knows the day or the hour, but He said this after an entire CHAPTER of detailed SIGNS that He commanded us to look for. These signs are clearly among us today, and we run as much risk of error by ignoring them as by being obsessed with them. Our good fear of false prophets must not allow us to ignore all prophets. It is time to pray for discernment - not to ask for permission to be like an ‘ostrich’, so to speak. As many have said here, God guides us through Scripture and the Catechism. Both of these speak clearly of these times, if we study them with a prayerful, trusting soul, asking Jesus to help us to completely surrender ourselves to His Holy Spirit! Ask for the grace to accept only as much as God knows you can handle; He loves you so much! So do I.

@DValone, I value your opinion, as I do those of the other participants on this thread. In fact, I have just placed on my bedstand a copy of Michael Barber’s book, “Coming Soon: Unlocking the Secrets of the Book of Revelation,” which holds and Imprimatur and Nihil Obstat, and which I intend to read as soon as I finish Dan Burke’s, “Spiritual Warfare and the Discernment of Spirits.”

For me, the thought of living on the edge of the end times has always been more exciting than frightful (proving my own naivety and ignorance), and I welcome the chastisement that I believe is coming soon.

But as far as listening to the prophets along the journey towards those end times, knowing there will of course be endless voices of false prophets sent to confuse, confound, misdirect, misguide, humiliate, and exhaust the faithful, shouldn’t we keep as our rule the necessary precautions of the church, namely to believe only in those words of the prophets that the church has approved?

As a child I used to imagine the false prophets looking at once homeless and ruthless, holding makeshift signs that tell me the end is near, and spouting repugnant words of degradation; in short, an easy-to-identify false prophet. But then, the devil’s not that stupid, is he. He knows what we long for, what we put our faith in, what looks legitimate to us, etc.
From what I’ve heard and read, Fr. Michel sounds like a compelling, faith-filled leader in the faith. Saying nothing of whether or not this priest of Christ’s church is in truth holy, which I cannot judge, it stands to reason that even someone such as himself could be used to send the faithful off track.

I trust that if God wants the faithful to hear His promptings, warnings, urgings, and instructions, He will give them to us in the way He has taught us to listen: through the blessing of His bride, the Church, as He has at Fatima and Akita and through Sts. Faustina and others, as you said.

Am I wrong in this? The smoke of Satan is already within the church, as St Pope Paul VI told us in 1972. Can we still trust that the church will approve the true prophets of Christ before it is too late?

Hi Aaron.

Yes, Christ gave us His Church and the Holy Spirit to guide us (John 16: 13-14). Remember that we all make up the Church – the visible head, the Pope, and all the faithful who are totally committed to Christ. Today, this commitment involves placing ourselves under Immaculate Heart of Mary. PJPII said, towards the end of his days, “I have always known that Mary leads us to Christ, but now in these days I see that Christ is also leading us to Mary.”

It sounds like you are on very good ground, placing your trust in the Church, and being humble. I am no expert, but I have served in a number of Catholic ministries involving discernment; and I know that as long as we are committed to truly following Jesus each day, He will guard us against following after false prophets: If you sense pride or rebellion in a seer, that person is not a prophet. The other great protection today is to consecrate yourself to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. She fiercely guards Her children who give themselves to Her!

Finally, my 3 simple rules for judging the authenticity of a mystic are:

  1. Study the Church-approved visions (Our Lady of Good Success, Fatima, Akita, Faustina, etc.); there is enough knowledge there to last a lifetime;

  2. Look at the judgment of Popes JPII & Benedict on those sites that have not yet been approved: both of these great popes believed without a doubt in a site which is much maligned today. And Padre Pio was certain that another such disputed site was also indeed valid.

  3. Lastly, look at the fruits: have the predictions come true? I can tell you that Fr. Michel scores high on this point.

Give yourself to Jesus, His Holy Spirit and His Blessed Mother and you will not be led astray – even if men in very high places today are. Peace to you!

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