What do witches/sorcerers deserve now?

witches/sorcerers include fortune tellers, ghost eliminators etc

Do you mean fortune-tellers who actually think they can tell fortunes, or could you be including the person who fakes it for the money?

Is this for real? If it is, they need prayers, not a bar-b-q in their honor.

fortune tellers for all purposes are included.
some here in China think they can really tell the fortune
some for money
others for their sadistic need

they deserve eternal damnation.

just like we all do.

You seem to be talking civil penalties that would be imposed by the State. Hmm. Then it would depend on factors like the extent of damage caused to the citizens of the state, whether or not the person could be re-educated, intent to harm, etc.

In the good ol’ USA, they would have to be guilty of fraud or violation of sanitation laws by killing chickens or somesuch to get a punishment. Simply being a witch (or believing you are one) is no crime here (that I know of). Is it in China?

For example, if a person claimed to be able to rid the neighborhood of some disease or problem if everyone gave him their life savings and he performed some phoney ritual and left town, well, he deserves a large punishment for hurting so many people with the fraud.

Actually ritual sacrafice of animals is allowed in the US. Santaria, VooDoo and other neo-pagans are allowed to kill animals for their rituals.

I guess being a witch breaks the law but doesn’t constitute a crime(so is adultery) in China. The official punishment is a fine if no serious bodily harm occured. But since so many law enforcement officials believe in witchcraft, it’s rarely imposed.

other forms of witchcraft include: selling curses, claiming the ability to cure all sorts of illness(doctors from heaven)

nearly all kinds of witchcroft involves fraud

[quote=Jermosh]Actually ritual sacrafice of animals is allowed in the US. Santaria, VooDoo and other neo-pagans are allowed to kill animals for their rituals.
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Yes. However, I’m willing to bet if it is in a building in a city, they still would have to follow various regulations involving disposal, etc. So I was thinking that they might be prosecuted in the rare case that they failed to comply with such regulations.

If they dispose of the blood down the drain or eat the chickens, for all I know the city requires their drain to have a grease trap, just like a restaurant. Cities are prone to that sort of thing.

Just like here the fire department desired that we handle the candles differently at Easter Vigil. I don’t know if they just strongly recommended that change or if it was a law.

You missed out by not including another option:

Reparations for past persecution.
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taking money for fortune-tellings is supposed to be against the law, but apparently the 900 number people do it with impunity. threatening harm, whether by casting a spell or refusing to lift a spell, for financial gain is extortion, and is a crime punishable by law.

[quote=pprimeau1976]Is this for real? If it is, they need prayers, not a bar-b-q in their honor.
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:smiley: BWAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH

[quote=jeffreedy789]they deserve eternal damnation.

just like we all do.
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Good answer.

[quote=abcdefg]other forms of witchcraft include: selling curses, claiming the ability to cure all sorts of illness(doctors from heaven)
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That would not be forms of witchcraft, that would be forms of fraud claiming to be witchcraft.

nearly all kinds of witchcroft involves fraud

I know very few real witches that sell their “services” at all. IMO, all these dial-a-fortune tellers and those sitting out on the beach or whereever are just doing it for the money and probably are lying or pretending. Please, tell me what fraud I have committed? I do not pretend to tell fortunes for money, I do not sell “curses” or “cures” or “spells”. I do not claim to be able to heal any disease.

If a person, regardless of religion, breaks the law --> stealing, killing, fraud, etc. they deserve to be punished, but not just based on their religion or practices.

Please, tell me, what are you going to do to me? Come find me and burn me at the stake? :smiley: Then you would deserve punishment for murder.

They dont deserve Gods Grace and the Gift of salvation and neither do we but the fact is Christ came to save ALL and that includes them. He loves the worst sinner as well as the best christian. :wink:

Mediums ( talk to the dead), sorcerers and ones who practice witchcraft are here today , alive and working. On the US-Mexican Border Curanderos abound. They will tell you they do white magic.

Fr. Amorth who is the Pope’s Exorcist writes that there is no such thing as “white magic”. It is all from Satan. But they can and do have an effect upon their clients.

These same people exist in Europe too. Since they try to extort as much money as they can, I would like a law that makes taking money or property for supernatural “helps” illegal. The penalty would be prison time.

[quote=Exporter] They will tell you they do white magic.

Fr. Amorth who is the Pope’s Exorcist writes that there is no such thing as “white magic”.
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That is correct. There is no such thing as “white” or “black/dark” magic. It is all about intent.

It is all from Satan.

It is all from using the energies within and without you. And since everything was created by God, they are from God.

But they can and do have an effect upon their clients.

Not sure what you mean by this.

Since they try to extort as much money as they can, I would like a law that makes taking money or property for supernatural “helps” illegal.

Chances are in most cases these people aren’t real “witches” and are only doing it for the money. In that case I agree that it would would fraud and therefore illegal. But it’s no different than any other fraud.

Peace be with you all,

I think witches and sorcerers deserve…

Free dry-cleaning for all costumes and capes and 1 free copy of all the Harry Potter DVDs! :smiley:

Peace, Love and Blessings,

Yay! Harry Potter!! If only I didn’t find those movies so uninteresting… :slight_smile:

They deserve protection from Christians.

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