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Hi. I stumbled upon a Wikipedia article about John the Baptist being immaculately conceived, and my favorite Saint, Catherine of Siena supposedly believed this?
Is it his immaaculate conception permanent? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Conception_of_Saint_John_the_Baptist
But I also heard from my grandfather that the Orthodox church teaches this to be true? What do they really say about it? Thanks for your help guys.
JL: I Think the one who did the article is confused between CONCEPTION and being SANCTIFIED in the womb. The following caption in the article appears under the painting Elizabeth meeting Mary.
“Saint Elizabeth meeting the Blessed Virgin Mary. The moment of John's Immaculate Conception. By Jacques Daret, Oil on Canvas painting. Circa 1434, Berlin Museum.”]
The above caption says, ** "The moment of John's Immaculate Conception." ** Well at this meeting John had been CONCEIVED for six months.
Lk1:24 And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying, 25 Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on me, to take away my reproach among men. 26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, 27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
Then speaking of John the Baptist Luke tells us the following
Lk1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST, even FROM HIS MOTHER'S WOMB.
Lk1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elizabeth HEARD THE SALUTATION OF MARY, THE BABE LEAPED IN HER WOMB; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: [The same God who filled and sanctified Mary AT CONCEPTION. Also sanctified John the Baptist in the womb AFTER CONCEPTION. According to New Advent both John and the prophet Jeremiah were sanctified in their mother’s womb.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07674d.htm Move down to, The conception of John the Baptist.