What happen to the Church militant?

As I read through the compendium of the cathechism of the Church, I never once saw the term the militant Church neither the triumphant Church nor the suffering Church.

Why are these term not used? Are they not modern enough?

Could it be that the last time it appeared anywhere was in the Baltimore Catechism???

The terms are adequate descriptions of what they signify.
Maybe Catholics today are so lax because they can’t see the need for a fight against our enemies the Devil, the world and our own flesh?

I think that one of the big reasons the term is not found in the compendium is that the Church is trying a more holistic understanding instead of dividing the Church into parts. The Church is the Body of Christ and, therefore, cannot be divided. At the same time, the Church does recognize that part of the Body is in heaven, part in Purgatory and part on earth. Yet the Church herself is whole, undivided.

Deacon Ed

The Church was considered one and undivisable back then too, maybe even more so when people really felt the need to pray for the poor souls in purgatory. Today everyone goes to heaven so why bother to pray for them.

Why do you have a need for this particular verbage? The Church has not stopped teaching this.

954 The three states of the Church. “When the Lord comes in glory, and all his angels with him, death will be no more and all things will be subject to him. But at the present time some of his disciples are pilgrims on earth. Others have died and are being purified, while still others are in glory, contemplating 'in full light, God himself triune and one, exactly as he is”’:490

All of us, however, in varying degrees and in different ways share in the same charity towards God and our neighbours, and we all sing the one hymn of glory to our God. All, indeed, who are of Christ and who have his Spirit form one Church and in Christ cleave together.491

955 "So it is that the union of the wayfarers with the brethren who sleep in the peace of Christ is in no way interrupted, but on the contrary, according to the constant faith of the Church, this union is reinforced by an exchange of spiritual goods."492

956 The intercession of the saints. "Being more closely united to Christ, those who dwell in heaven fix the whole Church more firmly in holiness… They do not cease to intercede with the Father for us, as they proffer the merits which they acquired on earth through the one mediator between God and men, Christ Jesus… So by their fraternal concern is our weakness greatly helped."493

Do not weep, for I shall be more useful to you after my death and I shall help you then more effectively than during my life.494

I want to spend my heaven in doing good on earth.495

957 Communion with the saints. "It is not merely by the title of example that we cherish the memory of those in heaven; we seek, rather, that by this devotion to the exercise of fraternal charity the union of the whole Church in the Spirit may be strengthened. Exactly as Christian communion among our fellow pilgrims brings us closer to Christ, so our communion with the saints joins us to Christ, from whom as from its fountain and head issues all grace, and the life of the People of God itself"496:

We worship Christ as God’s Son; we love the martyrs as the Lord’s disciples and imitators, and rightly so because of their matchless devotion towards their king and master. May we also be their companions and fellow disciples!497

958 Communion with the dead. "In full consciousness of this communion of the whole Mystical Body of Jesus Christ, the Church in its pilgrim members, from the very earliest days of the Christian religion, has honored with great respect the memory of the dead; and ‘because it is a holy and a wholesome thought to pray for the dead that they may be loosed from their sins’ she offers her suffrages for them."498 Our prayer for them is capable not only of helping them, but also of making their intercession for us effective.

959 In the one family of God. "For if we continue to love one another and to join in praising the Most Holy Trinity - all of us who are sons of God and form one family in Christ - we will be faithful to the deepest vocation of the Church."499

I know that the Church cannot stop teaching Catholic teaching and she never will. The gates of hell and all that.
But why refusing to use words that are true. If the militant Church stops it’s fight and struggle against the flesh the Devil and the world. What would happen?- take a look around next Sunday- the ruins of Catholicism.

Dear Carl36,

409 This dramatic situation of "the whole world [which] is in the power of the evil one"302 makes man’s life a battle:

The whole of man’s history has been the story of **dour combat **with the powers of evil, stretching, so our Lord tells us, from the very dawn of history until the last day. Finding himself in the **midst of the battlefield **man has to struggle to do what is right, and it is at great cost to himself, and aided by God’s grace, that he succeeds in achieving his own inner integrity.303

Sounds pretty militant to me.

You hit that nail on the head!

EXCUSE ME - EXCUSE ME BUT the terms Church militant, Church suffering and Church triumphant have not been done away with. In point of fact I taught about them several weeks ago in a family catechesis class that I teach. It is in the CCC, it is many other things that we use, if you really do much reading, you will see them referred to. For those not familiar with these terms, the Church militant is comprised of those of us on earth. The Church suffering are those souls in purgatory for whom we pray. The Church triumphant is comprised of those souls (saints) in heaven. The communion of saints is comprised of all three. We all pray for one another. It is the Church suffering that cannot pray for themselves. That is why we are highly encouraged to pray for them.
Deacon Ed B.

Why are these term not used

I hear them all the time
My impression is that they are often and usually used. :shrug:

what is a “c” religion… in your bio???

no idea :shrug:

Were still here:yup: .

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