What happened to Catholic Knights and how do we get them back?


#1

I didn’t know where to put this, and seeing how this is right up my vocation as a Catholic Cop, I figured I’d put it here:

In light of the tragedy in Newport: what happened to our REAL Catholic Knights and how do we get them back?

This isn’t just a “let’s muse about theological heady stuff” thread. I want to know for real: if I wanted to start a lay order of Catholic Knights - REAL knights - where would I start, who would I talk to, what sorts of things would they want to know.

I’m going to copy / paste a large chunk of a post I made a while ago to illustrate the point. It’s appropriate and shows the error in a recent Cardinal Dolan - whom I normally love - sound bite of heavy gun control laws being no longer a legal issue but a “common sence” issue (in context sounded like he was edging towards it being a moral issue).

Paragraph 2321 of CCC states “The prohibition of murder does not abrogate the right to render an unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm. Legitimate defense is a grave duty for whoever is responsible for the lives of others or the common good.”

To render someone ‘unable to inflict harm’ may easily mean death for the unjust aggressor. Anyone who is motivated can shrug off a bullet wound. The book “Lone Survivor” tells the real-life story of a squad of 4 Navy SEALs who were ambushed by over 300 Taliban. 3 out of the 4 SEALs were killed but not before each of them - including the author (the lone survivor) - received 4 or more bullet wounds. The last SEAL killed actually took a round that entered his head at one temple and exited at the other. That SEAL still fought down to his last pistol magazine. So the whole idea of “just shoot them in the leg” will not reliably render an unjust aggressor UNABLE to inflict harm.

The whole “Lone Ranger” shoot-the-gun-out-of-their-hand is next to impossible. Mythbusters had an episode trying to replicate something similar. They declared their experiment a “one-in-a-million” shot. Hands are constantly moving making a 2" x 1" target (the size of a LARGE sized pistol pointed at you) virtually impossible to reliably hit. This too is certainly NOT a reliable way to render an unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm.

Other mythical “guaranteed to stop anyone but not harm anyone” methods either do not stop or do not exist. Tazer is limited to 21 feet and TWO barbs fired out at different angles must BOTH hit. At the maximum range the two barbs are at 3 FEET apart. Tazer’s long range solution is unreliable and has recently been removed from the market. The 40mm rubber bullets hit harder than a Mike Tyson punch. The target area is usually lower abdomen, legs or buttock area. If a person is on a pain killing drug - i.e. PCP - or sufficiantly motivated - see above SEAL real life situation - they won’t even know they’ve been hit.

Nets - as I’ve heard suggested on a radio show - do not prevent anyone from pulling a trigger.
Instant stick foams, sound-wave guns and Star Trek “set-to-stun” guns do not exist.

Making someone “Unable” to inflict harm means they stop their dangerous behavior. The quickest, most reliable way to stop someone (read: render an unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm) is to disrupt the information going from the brain to the muscles. This is most reliably done by causing the brain to shut down. This is done by two different ways: deprive it of blood, or cause enough damage to make it instantly shut down.

To that end the target area for Law Enforcement is ONLY two areas: Central Nervous System or Central Circulatory System. This means we aim for the Head or the Heart when forced to use Deadly Force. However, shooting someone in the heart is not an instant stop either. A person can live 5 to 10 seconds after being shot in the heart. From personal experience I know I can fire off 10-15 rounds in 5 to 10 seconds meaning a potential of 10 to 15 more innocent causalities. Double However, while shooting a unjust aggressor in the head is a much more reliable way of an instant stop, it is a harder target, but not nearly impossible as striking a gun out of someone’s hands.

Big long post for: Give me 2 armed Templars per school and Newport doesn’t happen again… EVER. Just look at Isreal.

Providing adaquate protection is a MORAL issue per CCC. How do we start this for our kids?

God help us! :knight1: :signofcross: :knight1:


#2

An interesting thought , that.....


#3

[quote="PoorKnight, post:1, topic:308655"]
I didn't know where to put this, and seeing how this is right up my vocation as a Catholic Cop, I figured I'd put it here:

In light of the tragedy in Newport: what happened to our REAL Catholic Knights and how do we get them back?

This isn't just a "let's muse about theological heady stuff" thread. I want to know for real: if I wanted to start a lay order of Catholic Knights - REAL knights - where would I start, who would I talk to, what sorts of things would they want to know.

I'm going to copy / paste a large chunk of a post I made a while ago to illustrate the point. It's appropriate and shows the error in a recent Cardinal Dolan - whom I normally love - sound bite of heavy gun control laws being no longer a legal issue but a "common sence" issue (in context sounded like he was edging towards it being a moral issue).

Paragraph 2321 of CCC states "The prohibition of murder does not abrogate the right to render an unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm. Legitimate defense is a grave duty for whoever is responsible for the lives of others or the common good."

To render someone 'unable to inflict harm' may easily mean death for the unjust aggressor. Anyone who is motivated can shrug off a bullet wound. The book "Lone Survivor" tells the real-life story of a squad of 4 Navy SEALs who were ambushed by over 300 Taliban. 3 out of the 4 SEALs were killed but not before each of them - including the author (the lone survivor) - received 4 or more bullet wounds. The last SEAL killed actually took a round that entered his head at one temple and exited at the other. That SEAL still fought down to his last pistol magazine. So the whole idea of "just shoot them in the leg" will not reliably render an unjust aggressor UNABLE to inflict harm.

The whole "Lone Ranger" shoot-the-gun-out-of-their-hand is next to impossible. Mythbusters had an episode trying to replicate something similar. They declared their experiment a "one-in-a-million" shot. Hands are constantly moving making a 2" x 1" target (the size of a LARGE sized pistol pointed at you) virtually impossible to reliably hit. This too is certainly NOT a reliable way to render an unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm.

Other mythical "guaranteed to stop anyone but not harm anyone" methods either do not stop or do not exist. Tazer is limited to 21 feet and TWO barbs fired out at different angles must BOTH hit. At the maximum range the two barbs are at 3 FEET apart. Tazer's long range solution is unreliable and has recently been removed from the market. The 40mm rubber bullets hit harder than a Mike Tyson punch. The target area is usually lower abdomen, legs or buttock area. If a person is on a pain killing drug - i.e. PCP - or sufficiantly motivated - see above SEAL real life situation - they won't even know they've been hit.

Nets - as I've heard suggested on a radio show - do not prevent anyone from pulling a trigger.
Instant stick foams, sound-wave guns and Star Trek "set-to-stun" guns do not exist.

Making someone "Unable" to inflict harm means they stop their dangerous behavior. The quickest, most reliable way to stop someone (read: render an unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm) is to disrupt the information going from the brain to the muscles. This is most reliably done by causing the brain to shut down. This is done by two different ways: deprive it of blood, or cause enough damage to make it instantly shut down.

To that end the target area for Law Enforcement is ONLY two areas: Central Nervous System or Central Circulatory System. This means we aim for the Head or the Heart when forced to use Deadly Force. However, shooting someone in the heart is not an instant stop either. A person can live 5 to 10 seconds after being shot in the heart. From personal experience I know I can fire off 10-15 rounds in 5 to 10 seconds meaning a potential of 10 to 15 more innocent causalities. Double However, while shooting a unjust aggressor in the head is a much more reliable way of an instant stop, it is a harder target, but not nearly impossible as striking a gun out of someone's hands.

Big long post for: Give me 2 armed Templars per school and Newport doesn't happen again.... EVER. Just look at Isreal.

Providing adaquate protection is a MORAL issue per CCC. How do we start this for our kids?

God help us! :knight1: :signofcross: :knight1:

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This is just silliness.


#4

Explain or stop trolling. Our Children’s lives are on the line. Or was last friday “silliness”?

What, in your humble opinion, would be a non-“silly”, realistic way to stop what is happening in our schools?

We spend millions of dollars on each school for fire safety. The floor tiles are not chosen for wear / tear or for ethstetics. They have only 1 requirement: fire resistance. The chairs your kids sit on have only 1 requirement: fire resistance. The paint on the walls, same thing, the rugs, the ceiling tiles, the sprinkler systems, the teachers desks all have only ONE requirement: Fire Resistance. Then how many times a year are the schools required to practice fire drills? Multiple times a year.

You want SILLINESS: How many children have been killed or injured in a US School Fire in the last 60+ years? ZERO, Nada, nil, zilch, NONE. Not a single child killed or injured in a school fire in 60+ years! Yet we spend Millions per school on what’s called “Overlapping, redundant safety systems”. I’m not taking anything away from the fire guys. They’re doing an A+ job!

How many kids are killed / injured in school violence each year? Dozens killed and TENS OF THOUSANDS injured in assaults. This all per Lt. Col. Dave Grossman (ret.) in his book “On Combat”. How much money do we spend on Violence Safety in our schools? Virtually Nothing.

How many “Overlapping, redundant safety systems” do we have in place for School Violence Safety?

NONE!!

And my concern is “silliness”?!? Your ignorance is astounding.

We all have Moral responsibility to protect Children, or so we say when Abortion is the issue.

The CCC calls protecting innocent lives a “grave matter”, meaning if you FAIL to do so, under the provided circumstances, it would be a MORTAL SIN.

So what’s YOUR excuse? At least I want to do something that’s actually effective!

God Help Us!

:signofcross:


#5

The idea of Catholic Knights itself is an intriguing one. Somewhat like the origin of the Knights Templar and the purpose they initially were formed to effect....... hmmmmmmmmmm.....


#6

[quote="PoorKnight, post:4, topic:308655"]
We all have Moral responsibility to protect Children,

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I agree.

So what's YOUR excuse? At least I want to do something that's actually effective!

Learn martial arts. :)

There isn't always going to be someone else around to help, and in most cases the damage will be done by the time the help arrives. If everyone knew some type of deadly self defense (Krav Maga, etc.), these crazy folks won't be able to do as much damage.

You don't need a gun either. One 12" throwing knife that hit a person anywhere is going to seriously impair the person ability to attack, even if for a few brief moments.

A lot of people want others to be the solution. All people should be proactive and become the solution.


#7

[quote="PoorKnight, post:4, topic:308655"]
Explain or stop trolling. Our Children's lives are on the line. Or was last friday "silliness"?

What, in your humble opinion, would be a non-"silly", realistic way to stop what is happening in our schools?

We spend millions of dollars on each school for fire safety. The floor tiles are not chosen for wear / tear or for ethstetics. They have only 1 requirement: fire resistance. The chairs your kids sit on have only 1 requirement: fire resistance. The paint on the walls, same thing, the rugs, the ceiling tiles, the sprinkler systems, the teachers desks all have only ONE requirement: Fire Resistance. Then how many times a year are the schools required to practice fire drills? Multiple times a year.

You want SILLINESS: How many children have been killed or injured in a US School Fire in the last 60+ years? ZERO, Nada, nil, zilch, NONE. Not a single child killed or injured in a school fire in 60+ years! Yet we spend Millions per school on what's called "Overlapping, redundant safety systems". I'm not taking anything away from the fire guys. They're doing an A+ job!

How many kids are killed / injured in school violence each year? Dozens killed and TENS OF THOUSANDS injured in assaults. This all per Lt. Col. Dave Grossman (ret.) in his book "On Combat". How much money do we spend on Violence Safety in our schools? Virtually Nothing.

How many "Overlapping, redundant safety systems" do we have in place for School Violence Safety?

NONE!!

And my concern is "silliness"?!? Your ignorance is astounding.

We all have Moral responsibility to protect Children, or so we say when Abortion is the issue.

The CCC calls protecting innocent lives a "grave matter", meaning if you FAIL to do so, under the provided circumstances, it would be a MORTAL SIN.

So what's YOUR excuse? At least I want to do something that's actually effective!

God Help Us!

:signofcross:

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Your assertion about school fires is incorrect. There most certainly HAVE been children killed in school fires in the "last 60+ years." You might want to check the Net and read up on the fire at Our Lady of the Angels school in the late 1950's . Numerous children and a number of nuns killed in the fire - to name one instance.


#8

[quote="PoorKnight, post:4, topic:308655"]
Explain or stop trolling. Our Children's lives are on the line. Or was last friday "silliness"?

What, in your humble opinion, would be a non-"silly", realistic way to stop what is happening in our schools?

We spend millions of dollars on each school for fire safety. The floor tiles are not chosen for wear / tear or for ethstetics. They have only 1 requirement: fire resistance. The chairs your kids sit on have only 1 requirement: fire resistance. The paint on the walls, same thing, the rugs, the ceiling tiles, the sprinkler systems, the teachers desks all have only ONE requirement: Fire Resistance. Then how many times a year are the schools required to practice fire drills? Multiple times a year.

You want SILLINESS: How many children have been killed or injured in a US School Fire in the last 60+ years? ZERO, Nada, nil, zilch, NONE. Not a single child killed or injured in a school fire in 60+ years! Yet we spend Millions per school on what's called "Overlapping, redundant safety systems". I'm not taking anything away from the fire guys. They're doing an A+ job!

How many kids are killed / injured in school violence each year? Dozens killed and TENS OF THOUSANDS injured in assaults. This all per Lt. Col. Dave Grossman (ret.) in his book "On Combat". How much money do we spend on Violence Safety in our schools? Virtually Nothing.

How many "Overlapping, redundant safety systems" do we have in place for School Violence Safety?

NONE!!

And my concern is "silliness"?!? Your ignorance is astounding.

We all have Moral responsibility to protect Children, or so we say when Abortion is the issue.

The CCC calls protecting innocent lives a "grave matter", meaning if you FAIL to do so, under the provided circumstances, it would be a MORTAL SIN.

So what's YOUR excuse? At least I want to do something that's actually effective!

God Help Us!

:signofcross:

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Ummmm....it didn't make the news, but when I was in 3rd grade (1992) a science project gone wrong caught fire to the school. It was very minor...I'm not sure it made the news...but several children were injured. Could it of been worse? Sure. But even with all the precautions in place I know atleast 1 child who had nothing to do with the project who received 3rd degree burns on his face from a falling ceiling tile. It happened in a matter of seconds. I know others were injured, but they were the bigger (grade 5) children who were responsible for the accident.


#9

Your concern is not the least bit silly. But your proposal definently is. I dont even know where to begin to address your post. Logistically, your solution is impractical. Politically, it is impossible. But I do admire your fire.


#10

Perhaps some sort of training for those that wish to protect Catholic Schools?

This would be more politically viable methinks.


#11

[quote="Nimzovik, post:10, topic:308655"]
Perhaps some sort of training for those that wish to protect Catholic Schools?

This would be more politically viable methinks.

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This idea could actually gain some traction! :thumbsup:


#12

Indeed. In view of what I think is yet to come, in terms of Catholics being future targets, it may be* wise* to implement such.


#13

[quote="Tarpeian_Rock, post:7, topic:308655"]
Your assertion about school fires is incorrect. There most certainly HAVE been children killed in school fires in the "last 60+ years." You might want to check the Net and read up on the fire at Our Lady of the Angels school in the late 1950's . Numerous children and a number of nuns killed in the fire - to name one instance.

[/quote]

I stand corrected. I did not have my notes infront of me. In rechecking with Dave Grossman's website www.killology.com I find he has post 25+ years, however, when I heard him live, I know the number he said was longer than that. My notes say 50+ (which could put Our Lady of the Angels as one of the last).

The point still stands, however, that we are willing to put millions into fire protection and virtually nothing into violence protection when, statistically, our children are much more likely to be killed or injured by violence in school than by fire.


#14

[quote="PrayRosary, post:9, topic:308655"]
Your concern is not the least bit silly. But your proposal definently is. I dont even know where to begin to address your post. Logistically, your solution is impractical. Politically, it is impossible. But I do admire your fire.

[/quote]

I appriciate your clarification and I appologize for my fire, but I've taught the police response to "In progress mass violence" and "school preparation for mass violence" to for 5ish (and I know people who have been doing it for 15+) years and still no one is listening.

I keep hearing the same BS every time: We're shocked! No one could have predicted this! No one could have seen this coming! Bla bla bla!

My fellow instructors and I were mulling response to multiple teams of trained shooters wandering a city a YEAR before Mumbai. We are CONSTANTLY seeing this coming, predicting the next one and PRAYING that people finally wake up.

Most public schools have School resource officers available, but no Catholic School does.

Our religion USED to have men willing to stand in the gap to the last man to give as much time for the innocent to escape as possible... See both the battle of Acre in 1291 and the Battle of the island of Malta in 1565. Where are those Catholic men / women now?

Catholicism has a deep history of real Knights orders, not just titles given out to hospital administrators, to honor guards or to some social justice participants, but REAL Warriors.

Since that time the Catholic culture has not only shunned its warrior class, it has eliminated it. Evil has declared war on our children: abortion, drugs, gangs, pornography, and now mass violence in our schools.

I'm saying, for the sake of our children, it is time to revive our warrior class.

God Help us! :signofcross:


#15

:thumbsup:


#16

I think it is an interesting topic, an i suppose in a sense there are still Catholic Knights out there if you are willing to consider the Swiss Guard of the Holy Father.

Though I think the OP is indeed talking about the Knights Templar surrounded in myth but from what I can gather originally started out as protectors for Christians who were migrating around where ever and perhaps at times interviened in a few questionable trials against Christians.

The thing is if that type of protection were to start again it would be very hard because you are talking about a seperate form of armed protectors not only that but for Christians / Catholics, and no Government is going to like that at all, But one could argue, hey seperation of Church an State, and why not.

Use that little bit of language against the idiots an stir the pot, if there has to be a seperation of Church an state, then no Catholic should be forced to pay taxes, the state in turn can not give catholics anything, and if Christians and Catholics want their own personal protection force they can have it as long as it doesn't interfere with local police, or any other government law eforcement / military.

I tell ya though i wouldn't mind some protection while crossing the street to get to church from the parking lot to the church, bloody traffic is a nightmare and i get sick n tired of getting in the cross walk with my poor mother and see a car speeding right at us wondering if they are going to slow down or not.

Though I do not doubt that if the Church wanted to they could hire private security to be a presence on Church property, I also can attest to the fact a priest I know has had to call police on numerous occasions recently because of vagrants and others loitering and doing who knows what on the property at night.

An maybe that is what it should be called instead of Catholic Knights , consider calling it Private Security, society would have an easier time accepting that than " Catholic Knights ".

I do not find this thread silly, as i have thought similar before .

Hey here is one to add, can a priest become a swiss guard at the vatican ?


#17

[quote="Tarpeian_Rock, post:7, topic:308655"]
Your assertion about school fires is incorrect. There most certainly HAVE been children killed in school fires in the "last 60+ years." You might want to check the Net and read up on the fire at Our Lady of the Angels school in the late 1950's . Numerous children and a number of nuns killed in the fire - to name one instance.

[/quote]

While my post was incorrect, my notes - which I didn't have infront me, are correct. I just verified that the statistic is Zero Children killed or injured in school fires in 50+ years:

policeone.com/active-shooter/articles/2058168-Active-shooters-in-schools-The-enemy-is-denial/

Ret. Lt. Col. Dave Grossman is the world leading expert in both PTSD and the psychology of human to human agression / violence, i.e. Combat, which is EXACTLY is happening to our schools: War.

In 1999 there were 35 kids killed and A QUARTER OF A MILLION INJURED IN SCHOOL VIOLENCE in the U.S. How many kids killed / injured in school fires? Zero

"But wait, that was the year of Columbine. Isn't that statistic is skewed?"

It has been going up since then. 2004 there were 48 kids killed and HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS INJURED IN SCHOOL VIOLENCE. How about school fire? How many kids killed / injured in school fire that year in the US? ZIPPO, ZILCH.

When are we going to get out of our DENIAL. School Resource Officers do not go into Catholic Schools...


#18

A video that may interest you...

youtube.com/watch?v=NhWFQtzM4r0

:angel1:


#19

[quote="PoorKnight, post:1, topic:308655"]
I didn't know where to put this, and seeing how this is right up my vocation as a Catholic Cop, I figured I'd put it here:

In light of the tragedy in Newport: what happened to our REAL Catholic Knights and how do we get them back?

This isn't just a "let's muse about theological heady stuff" thread. I want to know for real: if I wanted to start a lay order of Catholic Knights - REAL knights - where would I start, who would I talk to, what sorts of things would they want to know.

I'm going to copy / paste a large chunk of a post I made a while ago to illustrate the point. It's appropriate and shows the error in a recent Cardinal Dolan - whom I normally love - sound bite of heavy gun control laws being no longer a legal issue but a "common sence" issue (in context sounded like he was edging towards it being a moral issue).

Paragraph 2321 of CCC states "The prohibition of murder does not abrogate the right to render an unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm. Legitimate defense is a grave duty for whoever is responsible for the lives of others or the common good."

To render someone 'unable to inflict harm' may easily mean death for the unjust aggressor. Anyone who is motivated can shrug off a bullet wound. The book "Lone Survivor" tells the real-life story of a squad of 4 Navy SEALs who were ambushed by over 300 Taliban. 3 out of the 4 SEALs were killed but not before each of them - including the author (the lone survivor) - received 4 or more bullet wounds. The last SEAL killed actually took a round that entered his head at one temple and exited at the other. That SEAL still fought down to his last pistol magazine. So the whole idea of "just shoot them in the leg" will not reliably render an unjust aggressor UNABLE to inflict harm.

The whole "Lone Ranger" shoot-the-gun-out-of-their-hand is next to impossible. Mythbusters had an episode trying to replicate something similar. They declared their experiment a "one-in-a-million" shot. Hands are constantly moving making a 2" x 1" target (the size of a LARGE sized pistol pointed at you) virtually impossible to reliably hit. This too is certainly NOT a reliable way to render an unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm.

Other mythical "guaranteed to stop anyone but not harm anyone" methods either do not stop or do not exist. Tazer is limited to 21 feet and TWO barbs fired out at different angles must BOTH hit. At the maximum range the two barbs are at 3 FEET apart. Tazer's long range solution is unreliable and has recently been removed from the market. The 40mm rubber bullets hit harder than a Mike Tyson punch. The target area is usually lower abdomen, legs or buttock area. If a person is on a pain killing drug - i.e. PCP - or sufficiantly motivated - see above SEAL real life situation - they won't even know they've been hit.

Nets - as I've heard suggested on a radio show - do not prevent anyone from pulling a trigger.
Instant stick foams, sound-wave guns and Star Trek "set-to-stun" guns do not exist.

Making someone "Unable" to inflict harm means they stop their dangerous behavior. The quickest, most reliable way to stop someone (read: render an unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm) is to disrupt the information going from the brain to the muscles. This is most reliably done by causing the brain to shut down. This is done by two different ways: deprive it of blood, or cause enough damage to make it instantly shut down.

To that end the target area for Law Enforcement is ONLY two areas: Central Nervous System or Central Circulatory System. This means we aim for the Head or the Heart when forced to use Deadly Force. However, shooting someone in the heart is not an instant stop either. A person can live 5 to 10 seconds after being shot in the heart. From personal experience I know I can fire off 10-15 rounds in 5 to 10 seconds meaning a potential of 10 to 15 more innocent causalities. Double However, while shooting a unjust aggressor in the head is a much more reliable way of an instant stop, it is a harder target, but not nearly impossible as striking a gun out of someone's hands.

Big long post for: Give me 2 armed Templars per school and Newport doesn't happen again.... EVER. Just look at Isreal.

Providing adaquate protection is a MORAL issue per CCC. How do we start this for our kids?

God help us! :knight1: :signofcross: :knight1:

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You just took it completely wrong, it says the prohibition against murder does not means you can't defend yourself (it says you can defend yourself); if they are trying to kill you then you can respond with lethal force.

10 to 15 rounds in 5-10 seconds does not mean 10-15 targets unless they are clumped.


#20

Here is my humble opinion. It’s not perfectly worded, but it’s a human effort.

PoorKnight, you said

Give me 2 armed Templars per school and Newport doesn’t happen again… EVER.

Bollocks, to use a British word. Bollocks, bollocks, bollocks. Tell me where, ever in history, an army, secular or religious, ever, ever, EVER prevented all loss of life across multiple events and locations. Tell me where in Scripture it ever promises that we can preserve all life. Even the Battle of Lepanto, a miraculous victory, left around 7500 dead on the Christian side, to the 20,000 of the Ottoman Turks.

What is my point? My point is that as long as there is sin, there will always be death. “The wages of sin is death.” No amount of knights, whether in steel armor with swords or faithful men and women in kevlar and assault rifles in every school, will be able to prevent that. We’re in a battle not only with the forces of this world, but with principalities and powers. And no matter how hard we work, no matter how prepared we are, they’re more powerful than we are.

I believe there are two false assumptions in your proposal, which are linked.

  1. We can prevent all evil by human means alone. Only when the Gospel prevails and Jesus Christ is alive in every heart will the Kingdom finally be realized, evil will be definitively for all time destroyed. But that time “no man knows.”

  2. Fixing the symptom will cure the disease. Putting guards in schools is a band-aid on leprosy. The wound is deeper, and it is festering, and rotting. Maybe the bandage is necessary, but the underlying disease must be cured. And to do that, we must preach the Gospel and bring the grace of Jesus Christ to the whole world. We must confront all evil with the love that is *willing *to take a bullet, to be crucified at any cost. And that takes genuine sacrifice. That takes real and deep faith. It takes profound hope. And it takes concrete love in concrete situations.

I’m not saying your suggestion is “silliness.” I’m not saying the country needs to be disarmed,and firearms banned. Nor am I saying that guards in schools are a bad idea. Maybe one or both of those are needed at the moment. Maybe neither. Certainly we need to be better prepared with plans to deal with such circumstances. What I’m saying is that we can’t fix the problem by human action alone. To believe that is to buy into the very first lie of the deceiver. We need God’s grace to penetrate the wounds of our human nature and heal us. And the only way that will happen, the ONLY WAY, is if we, each and every one of us, preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ with firm and unflinching faith.

Everyone who does this is already a knight. I suggest Ephesians 6 for St Paul’s words on knighthood and spiritual battle. Heck, the whole letter.

May the Kingdom of God come, and may it begin this Christmas. We’ve still got an hour where I am.

Merry Christmas everyone.


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