[quote="maplebug55, post:10, topic:268106"]
This is a FALSE statement and very insensitive to people who may have mental illness and or relatives with mental illness. Would you tell a diabetic that insulin can not "fix their illness" or a person with an infection that penicllin will not "fix their illness".
Totally insensitive on your part!
Thank you for letting me know I came across as insensitive. I don't think anyone who knows me would suspect me of being anything less than hypersensitive.
As far as diabetic and insulin, that is outside the scope of the discussion. I was only talking about "mental illnesses" and about those who have no origin in a physical problem. So I don't understand your comparison.
Would you tell a diabetic that insulin will cure them? That's one I'm not sure you could get them to swallow.
Infection with penicillin. Again, off the mark.
Here, let me help you attack me the way I think you wanted to. Did you want to say something like this?
Dear AlanFromWichita, I don't understand why you can say the Holy Spirit can heal people of mental illness. I don't believe that to be the case, and if you say it is then it is laying a guilt trip on those who are sick because it's like saying they don't have enough faith.
Is that more like what you were bothered by? If so, let me know -- or correct me -- and I'll see if I can give you an answer.
[quote="AlanFromWichita, post:2, topic:268106"]
Medicine cannot fix your mental illness, but God can via the Holy Spirit. It's a matter of learning how to open up and let Him, and to engage in practices that feed energy to the three primary energy centers of the false self: 1) power/control, 2) affection/esteem, 3) security/comfort. As your false self collapses, it takes your mental illness with it.
That is, unless you are one of the rare cases where the illnesses were caused by physical damage, in which case I have a different take on it.
My spiritual director told me a whole person has six components:
sexual (associated with self identity)
If you have a physical problem, go to the doctor. If you have a mental problem, go to a psychiatrist. If you want spiritual strength to help overcome any problem in any of the other areas, go to a spiritual director. Experts are not trained holistically; they try to fix everything from their own expertise. For example, you can have an emotional or spiritual issue, and a psychiatrist will see your symptoms of anxiety and give you a tranquilizer. He doesn't know the cause or the fix, but knows you will be able to calm down if he gives you a pill. Do this make sense to you yet?
Now I'm interested what your experience is in these matters, and how it is that I got on your wrong side. Are you protecting the feelings of people whose feelings you don't know? I'm a mental illness sufferer so if I take your criticism literally I have been insensitive to myself. Certainly we can't be having any of that! ;)
Peace and joy,