[quote="steve_b, post:23, topic:444485"]
I was ok with how you said it. I knew where you were going
Why do you think they are not growing?
Re: that direction
Orthodox = schism, therefore, ≠ orthodox
Schism has always been a condemned direction from the beginning.
Can you imagine Jesus allowing any apostle to leave Peter after He gave Peter a new name, said He would build His Church on Peter, the keys to the kingdom of God went to Peter, and Jesus told Him to feed and rule Our Lord's Church? It goes without saying, the apostles were to give their allegiance to Jesus plan.
There was an argument however, by the apostles over this. Jesus settled their argument
for space, here's a link describing what happened #4 ]
So we know the answer. We don;t have to guess.
as an aside, we hear 1st among equals by the Orthodox when it comes to Peter against the authority we know Jesus gave Peter.
An Orthodox priest I used to converse with said this about 1st among equals #129 ]
then I have to ask, why isn't it growing? Why are parishes stagnant?
Yes I was referring to the growth in the US.
Truly I don't know why they aren't growing. They are tiny and several parishes/missions that I know of are only surviving because of the influx of former Latins. So I guess my question is how can we grow and NOT rely on Latins? I'm not biased against them...I used to be one and there are things about the Roman rite that I miss, a lot of it cultural.
I think a lot of people who end up going to Eastern Catholicism eventually move on to Orthodoxy. There were several posters on CAF that did that eventually. There's a sort of spirtual schizophrenia in Eastern Catholicism...trying to unite the various dogmas and doctrines of both East and West is a difficult thing to do and I don't think all of us can understand and make sense of it. At least I don't think we can understand it enough to be at peace with it. I know I'm struggling and I know others who struggled with it as well.
With a few exceptions (Melkites mainly) there are a ridiculous amount of latinizations in the various Eastern Churches. I was interested in authentic Byzantine spirituality and I'm not finding that here...which of course is sad and I have been struggling with what I should do and where I should go for a few years now. My situation is rather complicated and I'm still not sure where I'll end up. In retrospect I think I should have just stayed Latin and made the best of things but I was drawn Eastward and it was hard to resist the pull. What's done is done and I can't go back but I do hope to be at peace spiritually soon.
FWIW I think the Bishop of Rome should be the final authority to go to if there is a dispute...he shouldn't barge in. So yeah I have issues with some of the papal claims but again I have no problem praying for the Pope of Rome and would continue to do so even if I became Orthodox. May God bless him in his mission!
ETA: People tend to either convert to the Latin Church or to the Orthodox Churches...not a lot from Protestantism or other faiths to the Eastern Catholic Churches although I do know of a few people. So again, the question is why? I think that most protestants would go Orthodox b/c of the Pope issues or would go Latin b/c of the similar traditions.