What is the difference between Russian Orthodox and Roman Catholic?


#83

No, and that quotation is why.

From the same premise, the Orthodox reach a rare exception. There are no circumstances in which the EO accept permanent avoidance of conception.

Some espouse the “Tollhouse” theory. They all believe in the need for purification for prayer for the dead. Again, parallel.

Neither believes what the other argues against. It’s really just the difference between greek and latin verbs.

hawk


#84

Sure no problem, like I said I am no expert, far from it Haha :wink: Just read what I can from different sources and I don’t remember where it was about the Filioque or Purgatory I read it at. Thanks for the clarification :blush:
I have the upmost respect for our Orthodox brothers and sisters in Christ.


#85

Please remember your marriage. In Orthodoxy it is God Himself who binded you two (in Catholicism you binded each other in God’s presence). Even if there are differencies between you and your husband’s faith, your matrimony is most important. Praying for a peaceful.solution of the spiritual differencies between you and your husband.


#86

What I notice is that Roman Catholics minimize the differences between Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy. However, the Orthodox insist that there are serious differences. Please see the 1848 encyclical of the Eastern Patriarchs:
http://orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/encyc_1848.aspx
Also, please note that according to the following video, Orthodox do not believe in Purgatory


#87

Theologically, the main difference is the authority of the Pope. Practically speaking, the main difference for a day to day life is the rejection of contraception by Catholicism.


#88

Do the Eastern Catholic churches accept the teaching of the Roman Catholic church on indulgences? Can an Eastern Catholic receive an indulgence, either partial or plenary as is possible for Roman Catholics?


#89

Indulgences are a Weetern idea. Again, as long as their is agreement at the level of theologia prima, we accept diversity at theologia secunda. So, yes, we accept indulgences as something particular to the Church of Rome. Byzantines and I assume other Eastern Catholics ascribe to the traditional eastern view of theosis.

@dochawk you would agree?

ZP


#90

Can an Eastern Catholic receive an indulgence or apply an indulgence to a loved one who has died?

Is this then a big difference between Eastern Catholic theology and Eastern Orthodox theology? AFAIK, Orthodox do not accept the Roman Catholic theology of indulgences. But do you say that Eastern Catholics do accept such?


#91

As Eastern Catholics we accept the theology of the Church of Rome, as long as we are in agreement at the level of theologia prima and as long as it is not forced upon us. Eastern Orthodox are not in communion with Rome and so, do not accept developments of Rome that took place during the second millennium.

ZP


#92

While Eastern Catholics hold to their own traditions, if they ever use any Latin tradition to get spiritual benefit from it (for themselves or for others), it is of course valid. Catholics are under authority of Pope who in his capacity as supreme Vicar of Christ, gifted us with option to apply indulgence to a loved one who was died. I’m pretty sure in Purgatory, rites are no longer as important, therefore receiving indulgence should not be a problem- even for someone who was Orthodox, or even Protestant in his life. With Purgatory we are already entering the Church Suffering, and that is part of Catholic Church.

Catholic viewpoint, of course. Eastern Catholics might have a different point of view towards this but generally wouldn’t deny this.


#93

It is my understanding in the Eastern tradition this period of “purification” or “partial separation” from God is not one of suffering, where in the Western tradition it sometimes express purification by fire and pain and suffering similar to that in Hell but with the assurance that in time you would be united with Christ in Heaven. Would this be a correct assumption, or if you can clarify further?


#94

We believe that it is necessary to believe in this intermediate after-death state in which souls are perfected and brought to full divinization, a process of growth rather than of punishment. This wouldn’t be described as involving suffering or fire.

If you have an opportunity I recommend The Deification of Man: St. Gregory Palamas and the Orthodox Tradition.

ZP


#95

Yep!
To quote my priest: “Purgatory is NOT pre-Hell! We shouldn’t fear it that way.”


#96

I will check it out. Thanks


#97

I’m curious, is this actually called a “conversion” as we believe the same things for the most part and have Apostolic succession in common?


#98

Caveat lector! Gregory Palamas may be a saint in the Orthodox tradition but to the best of my knowledge he is not a saint in the Catholic Church because he was after the Great Schism of 1054.

Also, his teachings on grace are not in accord with Scripture let alone the teaching of the Catholic Church.


#99

My understanding, as a Catholic, is that purgatory is a state of purification. It’s “painful” in the sense that we will purge any & all improper attachment.


#100

He is venerated in the Byzantine Catholic Churches and we celebrate his feast day twice a year. November 14 and the second Sunday of Great Lent.

ZP


#101

So far as I know, he is not venerated in the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church.


#102

I wonder why that would be? Do you have your parish calendar handy? Check the second Sunday of Great Lent.

ZP


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