[quote=Marilena]Okay, so I don’t know where to post this. Please forgive me.
I want to know if anyone knows the difference between the Tridentene Latin Mass, and the approved Latin Mass. Is the
approved Latin Mass a Tridentene one? Or, is the Tridentene
only done by SSPX members? Are noth Masses the same?
What is the difference? I don’t want this post to get contentious.
I only want a simple answer to my question. No, Iam not an
The Tridentine Latin Mass and the approved Latin Mass are the same thing. No difference.
The “approved Latin Mass” is the Trinentine Latin Mass that has been “approved” by the local Bishop. Since the impression was given for years that the TLM was forbidden, only the local Bishop was able to make this exception to the rule, and allow the Latin Mass to be celebrated. The “exception” is called an “indult”.
An approved Latin Mass is a Traditional Latin Mass that is “approved” by the local Biship, and is known as an “indult” Mass.
Why is an indult needed?
In the year 1969, the impression was given that the Tridentine Latin Mass had been abrogated (done away with), and replaced by the Novus Ordo Mass. Traditional Catholics argued for years that not only was the Old Mass not abrogated when the new Mass was issued, but that not even the Pope had the authority to do so, since the Old MAss was cannonized “in perpetuity” by Pope Pius V.
In 1988 John Paul II commissioned 9 Cardinals to look into whether or not the Old Mass had been abrogated (one of those Cardinals was Cardinal Ratzinger). The 9 Cardinals agreed unanimously that the Old Mass was not abrogated (which was contrary to the general impression given), and 8 of them agreed that any priest could say it without special permission.
For years Rome would admit this privately (to the SSPX for example), but only recently has it began to admit it publically. If you read the transcript of Cardinal Ratzinger’s interview with Raymond Arroyo ofEWTN from a few years ago, the Cardinal admits that the Old Mass was not abrogated.
In another recent interview, Cardinal Hoyos, who, along with the Pope, is currently negotioting an agreement with the SSPX (soon to be announced), also admitted that the Old Mass was never abrogated. Rome is finally admitting what the Traditionalists have been saying for years.
But to answer you question: The TLM is the same thing as the approved Latin Mass. There is no difference. Somce TLM’s are said with the approval of the local Bishop - with an “indult” - and some are not. That is the only difference.