What is the evidence for God's existence, apart from the Bible?


What is the evidence for God’s existence, apart from the Bible?




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[quote=catholicdoubter]What is the evidence for God’s existence, apart from the Bible?

The Catholic Church itself is an evidence of GOD’s existence. How can a group of twelve members grow to billions of people after a very long time?

It is because of GOD’s presence.


[quote=catholicdoubter]What is the evidence for God’s existence, apart from the Bible?

St. Thomas Aquinas’
5 Proof’s of the
Existence of God

  1. Motion: Since no thing (or series of things) can move (change) itself, there must be a first, Unmoved Mover, source of all motion.

    If the red lights flashed, the gates came down, and you stopped your car at the train crossing, what would your reaction be if only an empty freight car passed by? You wonder what was making that freight car move. What is in motion must be put in motion by another and that by another again.

.2. Causation: Nothing can cause its own existence. There must be a first cause that is not caused by anything else and that contains in itself the sufficient reason for its existence.

No one can ever borrow a book if each lender had to borrow it first from someone else ad infinitum.
  1. Necessity and Contingency: Whatever exists must have a sufficient reason for its existence. If there was ever a time when there was nothing, there could never be anything. From nothing, nothing can come.

    Therefore, if at one time nothing was in existence, it would have been impossible for anything to have begun to exist; and thus even now nothing would be is existence which is absurd.

4.** Perfection**: Real degrees of real perfections presuppose the existence of that perfection itself (the Perfect Being).

Now the maximum in any genus is the cause of all in that genus; as fire, which is the maximum of heat, is the cause of all hot things.

5**. Design**: Design can be caused only by an intelligent Designer. Mindless nature cannot design itself or come about by chance.

Nobody could possibly believe that their wrist watch just “fell together”.  On the contrary, it was obviously designed by an intelligent designer.  How much more so with the human body, the world, and the universe?  They all give evidence of an intelligent designer.

Ref. Thomas Aquinas’s “Summa Theologica” & Charles Rice’s “50 Questions on the Natural Law”


[quote=catholicdoubter]What is the evidence for God’s existence, apart from the Bible?

Catholic Doubter,

I’d like to point you also to two books by C.S. Lewis:

Mere Christianity - starts with the existence of “right” and “wrong” and proves the existence of God from them

Miracles - shows how the existence of consciousness in a self-contained physical universe is self-contradictory; this proves the existence of the supernatural

There are also various things that have happened in more recent history. For example, I challenge you (or anybody else) to come up with a natural explanation of the miracle of the sun at Fatima that holds water for more than five minutes. There are also miraculous healings at Lourdes that defy natural explanation. (The Church investigates reports of miracles very thoroughly, by the way, before agreeing that any of them are actual miracles. I believe the review board at Lourdes includes a couple of Protestants and a couple of non-Christians.)

In a completely different direction, we have the Shroud of Turin. This has an image of the crucified Christ on it. Again, I challenge anybody to explain how the image got put onto that shroud in a non-supernatural way. There is also Juan Diego’s “tilma” (cloak) that is on display in a cathedral in Mexico, that has an image of Our Lady of Guadeloupe on it. The same challenge goes for it.

  • Liberian

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