What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them

Let Me answer your question straight with a simple example
You have caught a hot iron rod with your hand and you are weeping
You are asking Me to remove the heat from the rod and give you happiness
For this you are constantly praying the Lord to use His special power.
I have to laugh at this situation because the easiest solution is to remove
Your hand from the rod to be happy, which you are not doing at all
You cannot get rid of your attachment to the rod, but you pray the Lord
To cool the rod using His Maya, is this prayer justified in any way?

Why don’t you get detached from your family bonds and be happy?
The hand with which you have caught your family members is your mind
You detach your mind from the bonds of your family members
And be peaceful always and there is no need of praying the Lord for this
When the solution is in your hand why do you ask the Lord for it?
When the solution is out of your hands there may be justice in asking the Lord
In the first stage you detach your mind from them and be worry less
In course of time when your detachment by mind becomes complete
You will spontaneously leave your duties also and attain bliss

The detachment from the family comes by your attachment with the Lord
As the bond with the Lord becomes more and more strong, your family bonds
Become weaker and weaker and finally all the bonds disappear
In this state you are left over only with the bond with the Lord
This state is called “Eka Bhakthih” in Gita or the single pointed devotion
Devotion means love and this is related to the plane of mind
As the faculty of intelligence becomes more and more sharp
By the knowledge preached by the Lord, the devotion to Lord

Becomes more and more strong, thus knowledge is acting as
Both fertilizer as well as pesticide on both the sides simultaneously
It acts as a fertilizer for the bond with the Lord, which is like a plant
The plant grows slowly and becomes a huge tree by this fertilizer
The family bonds are like the insects that attack this devotion plant
For those insects this divine knowledge acts as a pesticide also
The knowledge is also the generating factor like the water for the seed
Only by the knowledge of the Lord, the devotion is generated
Devotion is the love or attraction towards the Lord to attain Him
It ends in agony or Vedana as told by Ramanuja, thus knowledge is
The generating factor, the fertilizer and the pesticide simultaneously

[quote=dattaswami]Let Me answer your question straight with a simple example
You have caught a hot iron rod with your hand and you are weeping
You are asking Me to remove the heat from the rod and give you happiness
For this you are constantly praying the Lord to use His special power.
I have to laugh at this situation because the easiest solution is to remove
Your hand from the rod to be happy, which you are not doing at all
You cannot get rid of your attachment to the rod, but you pray the Lord
To cool the rod using His Maya, is this prayer justified in any way?
[/quote]

Dattaswami,

As before, your posting is very profound and is a fine mixture of what I as a Catholic would consider truth and error. The metaphor of “You have caught a hot iron rod with your hand” is an excellent one–but I would submit to you that it applies more to our pet sins than it does to our family bonds. Our sins will drag us to Hell if we do not let go of them, and God will not allow us into Heaven while we hold onto them.

Why don’t you get detached from your family bonds and be happy?
The hand with which you have caught your family members is your mind
You detach your mind from the bonds of your family members
And be peaceful always and there is no need of praying the Lord for this
When the solution is in your hand why do you ask the Lord for it?
When the solution is out of your hands there may be justice in asking the Lord
In the first stage you detach your mind from them and be worry less
In course of time when your detachment by mind becomes complete
You will spontaneously leave your duties also and attain bliss

Here is where I believe you are wandering into error. Certainly one’s family bonds should never be stronger than one’s bonds to God, but it is not an either/or situation. When a person has his relationship with God in order and his relationships with his family members in order, the one will strengthen the other and the other will strengthen the one.

The detachment from the family comes by your attachment with the Lord
As the bond with the Lord becomes more and more strong, your family bonds
Become weaker and weaker and finally all the bonds disappear
In this state you are left over only with the bond with the Lord
This state is called “Eka Bhakthih” in Gita or the single pointed devotion
Devotion means love and this is related to the plane of mind
As the faculty of intelligence becomes more and more sharp
By the knowledge preached by the Lord, the devotion to Lord

Becomes more and more strong, thus knowledge is acting as
Both fertilizer as well as pesticide on both the sides simultaneously
It acts as a fertilizer for the bond with the Lord, which is like a plant
The plant grows slowly and becomes a huge tree by this fertilizer
The family bonds are like the insects that attack this devotion plant
For those insects this divine knowledge acts as a pesticide also
The knowledge is also the generating factor like the water for the seed
Only by the knowledge of the Lord, the devotion is generated
Devotion is the love or attraction towards the Lord to attain Him
It ends in agony or Vedana as told by Ramanuja, thus knowledge is
The generating factor, the fertilizer and the pesticide simultaneously

I would differ from you about the faculty of intelligence as well. We are called rather to love God with everything we have–the devotion part. This will not sharpen our intelligence so much as it will improve our … well, I don’t have a good word for it, but the best that I can come up with is goodness.

The “knowledge” of the Lord that we are called to have is not the knowledge of intelligence that comes from reading about Him. It is the knowledge that a wife has of her husband that comes from experiencing Him, from living with Him.

Hang in there and keep searching. There are some similarities between Catholicism and Hinduism, but there are some serious differences as well. As a Catholic I will naturally invite you to explore Catholic thought.

  • Liberian

After the completion of vedic study, the teacher admonishes his resident pupil: 'Speak the truth. Follow the Law. Do not neglect your private recitation of the Veda. After you have given a valuable gift to the teacher, do not cut off your family line.
'Do not neglect the truth. Do not neglect the Law. Do not neglect your health. Do not neglect your wealth. Do not neglect your private and public recitation of the Veda. Do not neglect the rites to gods and ancestors.
'Treat your mother like a god. Treat your father like a god. Treat your teacher like a god. Treat your guests like gods.

                                 --*Taiittiriya Upanisad* 

David

dattaswami, your philosophy reminds me a bit of the first book of the Ascent of Mount Carmel, except that for St John of the Cross it is appetites for the things of this world that torment the soul, not family bonds.

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