=may_they_be_one;Three references to baptism in the books of Acts and Romans refer to baptisms being done "in the name of Jesus Christ."
One reference to baptism in the Gospel of Matthew refers to baptism "in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
I've heard non-denominational pastors say that the first type is the only valid type.
I've heard RC priests say that the second type is the only valid type
***While there are [out of context] verses that speak of "Baptism is the name of Jesus." the inference is ALWAYS "in the Spirit." [Mk. 1:8, Acts 1:5, Acts 2:38, Acts 8:16 and Acts 11:16 FOR EXAMPLES.]
Baptism, clearly and specifically by Christ Himself MUST be in the name of the Trinity, as the TRINITY is how God chooses to make Himself present and known to us. [See The Baptism of Jesus Himself; Jesus, th Holy Spirit and the Voice of the Father are all present.... Mt. 3:13-16.] Reread Mt.28:19-20. God's own words.***
Each denomination thinks the other is wrong, and speaks as if they are the ones that are right. Paul said we should be one in mind and accord (used as an argument for doctrinal agreement). But Jesus prayed simply that we be one (an argument for heart agreement--since his entire ministry to the Jewish leaders was telling them to LIVE the faith, not just KNOW the faith).
**Yes he did. And at the time he spoke these words he was a Catholic, speaking to the only Christian [Catholic] church in existence at th time. See Eph. 2:19-23. **
HOW can we believers work together to bring the Body of Christ on earth into one accord in the TRUE meaning of His words? LIVING his word (as the Samaritan did) versus knowing his word (as the Pharisees did) seems to be Jesus' true measuring stick.
Ultimately, we will be judged by what we've DONE on earth (Rev. 21:8). So by whatever means we believe and live our faith in Jesus, as long as it results in a life of conversion, seems to be the path through which we should practice our faith
**Nice, easy, conveinant; BUT not true:( reread the passages I suggested above. Are we to beleive as you seem to imply that one can participate in God's Glory without participating in Christ Passion? :rolleyes:
"If you would come after me take up your cross AND FOLLOW ME."**
*Matt.5: 19 *"Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." ** Matt.19: 17 *"And he said to him, "Why do you ask me about what is good? One there is who is good. *If you would enter life, keep the commandments." **
I see ex-gang members, drug dealers, etc (many of whom are former cradle Catholics) getting "saved"and starting their conversion journey while attending non-Catholic churches--worshipping and believing in Jesus as best they can. I also see the similar effect happening in Catholic churches (where the new church attender may still not totally understand the "fullness" of the faith). IS IT POSSIBLE TO AGREE TO HOLD TO THE HEART OF THE GOSPEL?
[Friend, they ONLY THINK they are being saved. Reread Mt. 16:15-18, Mt. 16:19, John 20:21--23, Eph.2: 19-22 and Heb 6:4-10.... dreaming, wishing, thinking, denying truth; does not change it.]:o
[QIOTE]Paul wrote to Titus (chap 3), "remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good, to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and to show true humility towards ALL men... But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are UNPROFITABLE AND USELESS."
I am truly hoping and praying to see a major move in the hearts of ALL Christian leaders to seek unity in the TRUE meaning of Christ's life, death and resurrection: to lead their flocks into lives of repentance, holiness and LOVE for all mankind (especially for fellow believers who understand and practice their faith in a different tradition).
This is what Jesus Teaches:
Matt.28 Verses 18 to 20:"And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age."
***Love and prayers friends,
Your heart is in the right place, and we thank you. But your understanding of what the Bible teaches and God actually wants; demands is seriously lacking understanding. This is another example of precisely why the bible can only be properly understood when in conformity with the CC for which it was specifically written.***