[quote="mgoforth, post:1, topic:287651"]
The topic was: What's at the edge of the Universe? Some of the answers given by the scientists they interviewed were pretty mind-blowing...we could all be living inside a "hologram" universe where reality only exists in two dimensions at the edge of expanding spacetime, or we could be living in one of an infinite number of universes, all connected in a "multiverse".
How are the suggestions of a "hologram universe" or a "multiverse" any more "mind-blowing" than the claim that the universe was created by an all-powerful being for apparently nothing more than "testing" a handful of creatures on one single planet in the middle of nowhere among billions of stars that took billions of years to even begin to develop?
Objectively speaking, it's the last of these claims that strikes the mind as most outlandish.
But what I was wondering as I watched this show was, "What's the point of studying all this?" I mean, it's very cool, and of course there's the innate human desire to learn as much as we can about the world we live in...but what do these guys really expect to find when it's all said and done?
You just said it yourself: humans have a natural curiosity about these things.
Suppose they can eventually discover the "theory" that explains the way everything works (which I don't think is possible). But just suppose they can. What does that really prove?
The way everything works. The answer was in your question.
Incidentally, it may not be until after we discover something that the practical applications -- if there are any -- become apparent. Finding out the answers to some of these questions might just be something that's neat to know OR it could be the basis of some amazing, life-changing innovation in the future. That's part of the reason we pursue these questions.
Many in the scientific community would say that it somehow proves that God doesn't exist.
I doubt that many scientists would claim that discovering answers to these questions "proves" that God doesn't exist, but I do think that most scientists -- and most people, in fact -- would have to admit that it would make God largely irrelevant and belief in such a God entirely superfluous.
If we understand exactly how the universe came about, and it's a completely natural process, then we don't need to postulate a "god" or "gods" to explain anything. The concept of Gods would be entirely superfluous.
Aren't scientists out there smart enough to realize that you can't EVER find out what the ultimate beginning of existence is through scientific measurements or theory?
And how did you come to that conclusion, Mr. I'm-smarter-than-the-people-who-study-this-stuff-for-a-living? If you could actually demonstrate that it's impossible, you could win yourself a Nobel Prize (not to mention save everybody else a lot of time).
I think many non-scientists were happy enough to admit that the Big Band happened, but that it must have been God who made it go "Bang".
You gotta watch those "musts" -- it's the sound of a leap in logic, also known as an argument from ignorance.
"I don't know how the universe came to be...therefore, God must have done it!" Did you hear the whoosh that time?
Maybe I'm just rambling to myself...
There are worse things you could do with your time.