What's your view on Palmarian Catholic Church?

It’s a tiny, weird fringe group that isn’t really worth a lot of mental energy.

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I saw an old video of their leader “pope” in "

ecstasy" and it was so cringe worthy. One the clergyman that was looking on looked so awkward like he didn’t want to be there lol.

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Definitely, it’s not the true Church. I feel bad about this because they’re claiming something undefined and really schismatic. Oh… I’m sad to hear from you that you think that the Catholic Church is not holy anymore. Remember that the Church itself is holy, it’s just because we’re (the people) the one who sins and not the Church itself. There are more than a billion Catholics and most of the time, the Church has been an easy target of any religion which is unfair. The Palmarian Catholic Church, I think it’s not a Catholic, and probably not even holy.

It was made because of human pride and desire just like the Protestant Church.

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Ok, I gotcha! The Vatican was run by Anti Popes? How could it be? The Palmarian Church was founded in the 20th century. On the other hand, the Catholic Church was founded almost 2,000 years ago.

Hmm… I understand, though how could you say that it was corrupted by Vatican II? Look the Church had undergone such change that it attracted thousands of non-Catholic Christians to return to God and the Church founded by God.

No one here seems to have mentioned that the Palmarian Mass only lasts about 5 minutes and that the priests will consistently stack multiple Masses on top of each other due to their brevity

No one here seems to have mentioned that the Palmarian Mass only lasts about 5 minutes and that the priests will consistently stack multiple Masses on top of each other due to their brevity

You can see for yourself here how rushed their “mass” is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X87U_3zwAnc

On another note, I heard that one of the prior “Popes” of the Palmarians apparently abused a bunch of his followers, so yeah stay far away from these people. They seem like a sedevacantist cult to me.

They also consider Adolf Hitler one of their saints apparently.

They also consider Adolf Hitler one of their saints apparently

There’s many things wrong with the Palmarians, but the Hitler thing was found to be a hoax invented by a random Wikipedia user.

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There’s many things wrong with the Palmarians, but the Hitler thing was found to be a hoax invented by a random Wikipedia user.

Ah, thank you. I must’ve read that hoax wrong somewhere when looking through a news website.

They’re deluded

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They sound crazy as hell but in other side, they looks like a very interesting sect to explore in the field of comparative religion.

Can you explain this? I don’t understand how someone can be “somewhat sede”; is that like believing the Pope is 33% illegitimate?

One group could claim the current pope stole the election, another man actually is the current pope. But some bishops appointed prior to Francis are valid. Or not.

Another claim, Francis is validly elected pope but no longer fully papal due to heretical teaching. He is now like a camerlengo, a fill in administrator who can supervise the Swiss Guard but his teachings carry no authority.

Another, that the whole hierarchy is invalid since 1958 or some other year. Thus no living or recent pope or bishop had any authority, nor Vatican 2.

There are other nuances. The most common is to regard popes after Pius 12 as occasionally authoritative but not fully Authoritative, as Popes were before 1958.

Some regard the local Ordinary as no teaching or pastoral authority over them, though they respect the man, because of his office. They may cite something from their Ordinary before 1965 as authoritative, or a few bishops from somewhere else even today.

There are other variations, but their relationship with their own local Ordinary is a crucial variable. That’s the Chair, the sede, they do or do not choose to deal with most of the time.

For instance they may choose to communicate with their Ordinary when they take certain actions but they are not affected by their Ordinary on what actions they take.

Thus, there’s kind of intermediate categories on sedevacantist scale.

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Ah, okay then. Thanks for explaining this.

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