When a Catholic commits mortal sin do they cease being a child of God?


#1

When someone loses sanctifying Grace through mortal sin do they cease to be a child of God?

(I know it’s possible that everyone could be called a child of God because God created them but there’s maybe a difference with a person who received baptism confirmation and the Eucharist.)


#2

No, mainly because he is a creature of God. But he does commit moral suicide, likely condemns himself to hell, separates himself from the fount of all good, and harms the Body of Christ. He is essentially dead to God, a terrible penalty for a most terrible act. I take no pleasure in recounting this teaching, but it must be known.


#3

I believe only if you die in Mortal sin? But then again Jesus said all sins will be forgiven but Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit so unless its that, then all sin can be forgiven by Confession.
Can I just add a good rule of thumb of forgiveness is to ask yourself what would you not forgive your own child if it meant death to s/he?
I can’t think of a thing I would not forgive my kids unless justice demanded I do so.
Thank God for Purgatory ehh!


#4

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is final impenitence.


#5

no, they go to confession and seek the love and mercy and forgiveness of God


#6

Are you sure? I thought the soul dies when one commits mortal sin. And Christ, via a priest, resurrects it after Confession.


#7

Did I lead you to believe I held any other opinion? He is a child of God in the sense he is his creature, but the soul is dead. That is why I used the words ‘moral suicide.’ You are correct to say the soul dies in mortal sin.


#8

No. Please re-read the parable of the Prodigal Son. He doesn’t cease being a ‘son’ because he has sinned against his father.

Our souls are eternal. They cannot ‘die.’ However, the relationship between our souls and God can die … but it can be brought back to life through contrition and divine forgiveness!


#9

Sounds like classic “nun theology.”


#10

Must be a great nun ; )


#11

Only if he dies without going to confession and/or making a perfect act of contrition…


#12

This is my understanding, as well. Hence the need to make careful and deliberate choices in our lives so as to avoid spending life as a SOUL in Hell and hopefully spend life as a SOUL in Heaven. It is our body that dies, not our soul.

This statement is correct. However, it must also be understood within the context of God’s overwhelming desire to be in relationship with us…it is, indeed, the REASON for creating us, our raison d’etre, if you will. In this way, it is US who keeps the relationship closed/dead (as did the Prodigal Son while he was away from his father).


#13

When you say 'essentially dead to God" how can that be when the prayers of someone in mortal sin are still heard,and they long for confession,to gain God’s grace again?


#14

Not making an act of perfect contrition, having perfect contrition.

And I am speaking of the moment after mortal sin is commited.


#15

They are only heard in the sense that they can give the mortal sinner facilitating grace to regain the grace of God. That does not, in any way whatsoever, mean that he merits other grace. His prayers for others and himself in any other respect than going to confession or having perfect contrition are not answered by God, as he cannot achieve any special favour from him. It is called ‘mortal’ sin for a reason: it kills the soul. God Bless!


#16

You can’t make this call. Many people, myself included, can testify to God answering prayers and showering blessings, even though completely undeserved, while in a state of sin. We can’t merit while in a state of mortal sin, but God can, in his infinite mercy, still give us any actual grace he so desires. Furthermore, I believe the saints can still intercede on our behalf. While we cannot merit, who’s to say that Our Lady can’t take the prayer of a sinner to God, uniting her own merits to it?


#17

The soul is dead. Dead. It’s mortal sin. The only grace God can grant, perhaps save for a miracle, is facilitating grace, as the sinner has separated himself from the source of actual grace. Please read St. Anselm, or any other saint on this topic, if you don’t believe me. It’s an orthodox and correct teaching. From Fr. Z’s blog:

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God Bless!


#18

I think of it this way- if your child has written on the wall of your living room in crayon, are they still your child?


#19

If I’m in a state of mortal sin and I go to the parish office and arrange for a Mass intention for the repose of a soul, is my intention not heard? Of course it is…because the merits of the Mass itself…and because (hopefully) the priest’s merits. Yet I still made it happen. Likewise, if I go to my priest and ask him to pray for someone, is his prayer, prompted by me, worthless?
So if I can ask those on earth to pray for me while in a state of mortal sin, and, prompted by my request, God still hears their prayers, why can’t I ask the saints in heaven to pray for me while in a state of mortal sin? I don’t limit Our Lady…I believe she brings my prayers before God even when I am completely undeserving. It has nothing to do with my merits. I’ve discussed this with a priest and he agreed that this makes sense…of course I am only speculating, but I don’t see how it contradicts the teaching you’re citing.


#20

Yes it is, but that’s not your prayer. It’s the communal prayer of the Church, celebrated by the priest.

Also not your prayer. Why would your dead soul have any effect on the efficacious prayers of others?


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