When will minor Jihad end?


#1

Not until Islam overcomes the entire world and with whatever means necessary.

christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/105/22.0.html

“In terms of Islamic jurisprudence, only Muslims are innocent—non-Muslims are not. By default, all non-Muslims are rebel criminals against God. Muslims who engage in interfaith [gatherings] are apostate. God discriminates among man on basis of faith. The jihad is not specifically anti-Christian—it is anti-kaffir.”

CDL


#2

I’m aware of that. The big issue now is getting the message to all the more naive people in the country who don’t see the hidden agenda.


#3

Thank you for that most frightening article. Peaceful Islam indeed!


#4

yeah since Muslims have to pay to become Muslim and they have to join the Islam Church, we care about converting the rest of the world.


#5

[quote=Muslim]yeah since Muslims have to pay to become Muslim and they have to join the Islam Church, we care about converting the rest of the world.
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Do you speak of the Zakat? Christians are suposed to pay 10% not just 2 1/2%. Few Christians do, I’ll admit. That may be why so many are so non chalant.

CDL


#6

[quote=Muslim]yeah since Muslims have to pay to become Muslim and they have to join the Islam Church, we care about converting the rest of the world.
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Seems to me converting is synonymous with conquering. I don’t intend to convert or be conquered.


#7

[quote=GregoryPalamas]Do you speak of the Zakat? Christians are suposed to pay 10% not just 2 1/2%. Few Christians do, I’ll admit. That may be why so many are so non chalant.

CDL
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i was being sarcastic


#8

Numbers 13:26-28
26 They came back to Moses and Aaron and the whole Israelite community at Kadesh in the Desert of Paran. There they reported to them and to the whole assembly and showed them the fruit of the land.
27 They gave Moses this account: "We went into the land to which you sent us, and it does flow with milk and honey! Here is its fruit.
28 But the people who live there are powerful, and the cities are fortified and very large. We even saw descendants of Anak there.

One simple Question: Did the disbelievers in the land of Palestine during the times of Moses start any war with the Hebrews who ORIGINALLY came from Egypt?? Absolutely Not!
"Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. (Numbers 31:17-18)"
there are more & more …
so the question is: when biblical terrorism end?


#9

[quote=brotherhrolf]Seems to me converting is synonymous with conquering. I don’t intend to convert or be conquered.
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bible: Leviticus 25:44-46 “Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.”

Holy Quran:Noble Verse 24:33 “Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until God gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),”

:eek: huge difference!!!


#10

What biblical terrorism?


#11

[quote=onesimplemind]What biblical terrorism?
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here are a few :

Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be put to death. (Deuteronomy 13:5)

If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and kill all of it’s inhabitants… even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)

Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)


#12

[quote=GregoryPalamas]Not until Islam overcomes the entire world and with whatever means necessary.

christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/105/22.0.html

“In terms of Islamic jurisprudence, only Muslims are innocent—non-Muslims are not. By default, all non-Muslims are rebel criminals against God. Muslims who engage in interfaith [gatherings] are apostate. God discriminates among man on basis of faith. The jihad is not specifically anti-Christian—it is anti-kaffir.”

CDL
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The last paragraph of the headnote to the article reads:

Since the time Sheikh Omar granted this interview, he has issued a statement officially dissolving Al Muhajiroun. A later report in the Muslim Weekly, emanating from the Luton Council of Mosques (which opposes him), suggested that plans are afoot to re-brand the group as Ahl us-Sunnah wal Jamaah. Other British Muslim groups, such as the Muslim Council of Britain, frequently denounce Sheikh Omar.

I think it’s a bit unfair to post an article purporting to represent Islam, when the introduction to the piece specifically says that the man in focus is denounced by the major Muslim groups in his locale.


#13

[quote=pro_universal]The last paragraph of the headnote to the article reads:

I think it’s a bit unfair to post an article purporting to represent Islam, when the introduction to the piece specifically says that the man in focus is denounced by the major Muslim groups in his locale.
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No one said that all Muslims do these barbaric things. Schwartz estimates that only 10% of Muslims participate in things like suicide bombings and plane hijackings. Nevertheless, there is a theoretical basis in Islam for these deeds which unless that is renunced the barbarity will continue. 10% of over 1 billion is one large number. Let us pray for conversions to Christ and if not that then let us pray that the 100,000,000 who now support barbarity will be converted to a more moderate view of Islam.

CDL


#14

[quote=GregoryPalamas]No one said that all Muslims do these barbaric things. Schwartz estimates that only 10% of Muslims participate in things like suicide bombings and plane hijackings. Nevertheless, there is a theoretical basis in Islam for these deeds which unless that is renunced the barbarity will continue. 10% of over 1 billion is one large number. Let us pray for conversions to Christ and if not that then let us pray that the 100,000,000 who now support barbarity will be converted to a more moderate view of Islam.

CDL
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10% of the 1.6b+ Muslims is 160,000,000 and do you really think if 160,000,000 people were barbaric and violent, this world would be a safe place?


#15

[quote=Muslim]10% of the 1.6b+ Muslims is 160,000,000 and do you really think if 160,000,000 people were barbaric and violent, this world would be a safe place?
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For the life of me I cannot figure out when you are serious and when you are not. For one thing there are all sorts of figures for the Muslim population of the world. I suppose next extimate will be 12 billion or 20 billion. Secondly, whether it’s 100 or 160 million I do not believe the world is particularly safe at all. All I know is that there were Muslims who cheer in the streets every time some young Muslim blows themselves in hell on the streets of Jerusalem. Shame on them. I do believe that there are many millions of Muslims who find that behavior abhorent in the extreme. If bin Ladin and his ilk are so eager to kill people while they kill themselves I wish he’d do it himself and do the world a favor.

CDL


#16

Ishmael’s child,

How do you think talking about the Bible in any way rebuts the allegations made in the OP? If these verses are such a concern to you, you would have posted them in another thread long ago rather than Googling up some Islamic propaganda sites in a hurry as an angry response to this thread.

All this proves is that you can’t defend your own religion and have to resort to diversions instead. Such cowardly tactics only serve to diminish any small shreds of credibility that you may still have on here.


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