[quote="bsroufek, post:4, topic:335071"]
When we appear before Christ for judgement, all those joined to us will be apparent to all, unless He has forgiven it I guess.
God admonishes every son He receives/loves, but there are many who will take their sins to judgement.
So are you arguing that our punishment is set to come after death only then?
[quote="edwest2, post:7, topic:335071"]
Here they are:
All of these diseases are preventable by human action.
Note that no form of artificial birth control in the form of a pill, condom, IUD, foam or barrier is 100% effective. Note the failure rates:
And then there is the spiritual and psychological damage caused by abortion:
The moral dimensions of sexual sin are obvious to all practicing Catholics since we are all called to holiness. Sins of the flesh have been gradually encouraged over the past 40 years by the media.
[quote="TomD123, post:6, topic:335071"]
Second, I'd say that since the sexual revolution there have been all sorts of negative effects of sexual sin. Maybe not in each and every case, but collectively in society. Look at abortion, certainly the thought that 4000 children are slaughtered each and every day is a horrible thing. Then remember that almost all of these could have been prevented with chastity. Seldom are there abortions where the child is conceived from a married man and woman in a "divorce is not an option" relationship while being open to life.
Look at how women are treated like objects rather than people to cherish and love. Look how we have degraded motherhood and made it somehow an undignified slavery...instead of the great job that it is! We all need mothers and we should love and respect what they do, as mothers!
Look at the divorce rates. Look at the children born out of wedlock. These familes are much more likely to be impoverished
I wanted to respond to both of these together. Why do you two consider abortion to be a sexual sin? Isn't the act of murder is separate from the sin that created the life? And I do agree that STDs are indicative of moral punishment, but how come those who wait to fornicate until their fiancees have no punishment? They are still committing a sin.
Also, Tom, I don't understand the supposed "punishment" our culture treats being a mom to be either. That's what I want my vocation to be most in life :o.
[quote="holyfamily1, post:8, topic:335071"]
What are the positive affects of sexual sin?
Well...this is true in a way, but certainly I've met long-term gay couples or fornicating couples who would argue that they are completely happy and are happier committing the sin than if they stopped. One's faith alone is sufficient not to do these behaviors, but why are there not temporal punishments for each sinner?