I pointed out to Hodos that NOWHERE in the Bible does it say we are justified by faith ALONE . . . .
Number 1, neither does the Bible mention the word Trinity, but the scriptures clearly teach it. Sola Fide is a doctrinal description of a Biblical truth found in scripture, just as the Trinity is a doctrinal description of a Biblical truth found in scripture. You would reject this type of argumentation when used against yourself, but would hold someone else to a completely different standard. Intellectual dishonesty on your part my friend.
There is no “intellectual dishonesty” here from me or any other kind of “dishonesty”.
Look if you want to have the discussion I am willing to have it.
If you want a proverbial food fight, I can do that too.
NOWHERE in the Scriptures does it explicitly say we are saved by faith ALONE.
Now you are claiming the DOCTRINE is there (much like the Trinity).
I absolutely disagree.
If faith ALONE was taught . . . . anytime something else was taught would negate the “ALONE” portion.
This is going to be a problem for you.
It already has.
You have already admitted that you are saved by “HOPE”.
I agree with that (but I am not attempting to say “hope alone” but YOU ARE attempting to say “faith ALONE”.
It violates the law of non-contradiction.
You are going to have to do better than that.
To other readers, what Hodos is eventually going to have to say is “hope” REALLY MEANS “faith” in Romans 8:24.
Then when I trot out verses that discuss the necessity of works, Hodos is going to have to say it really means “FAITH” or it really means “saved” before men, or it REALLY means something else other than what the text says.
We already saw that with Galatians 6:7-8 where St. Paul EXPLICITLY tells us you can SEW unto eternal life!
Hodos came up with excuses about this being set up earlier in Galatians.
But earlier in Galatians it is only talking about works of the law. Those in context are Old Covenant “works of law” such as “circumcision”.
Not “works in the Spirit”.
Circumcision can’t “SEW unto eternal life”! Hodos knows that.
They didn’t even have the Spirit in the Old Covenant the same way Christians in the New Covenant have. (Which is WHY you CAN WORK in the New Covenant. You CAN also have a saving faith in the New Covenant. You CAN have this type of saving Hope in the New Covenant.
All this is a possible gift now because NOW we are animated by the Holy Spirit.)
Go and read Galatians.
Check it out for yourself.
The bit about Abraham being saved by “faith” is fine. The part I take issue with is ADDING the word “ALONE” when it is not there in the text. The Abraham argument is not going to help. I’ve been through it before with other people and it doesn’t work.
Hodos is going to HAVE TO keep ADDING to Sacred Scripture the word “ALONE” when it is not there and ignoring other verses that discuss other aspects in ADDITION to FAITH.
The Bible does NOT teach we are justified by faith ALONE (unless you define “faith” as including “WORKS” for those who can and “HOPE”).