Which have You seen? Vatican's list of best films

The list was compiled in 1995. I' ve seen the ones in Magenta.

Andrei Rublev (1969)

Babette's Feast (1988)

Ben-Hur (1959)

The Flowers of St. Francis (1950)

Francesco (1989)

The Gospel According to St. Matthew (1966)

La Passion de Notre Seigneur Jesus-Christ (1905)

A Man for All Seasons (1966)

The Mission (1986)

Monsieur Vincent (1947)

Nazarin (1958)

Ordet (1954)

The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928)

The Sacrifice (1986)

Therese (1986)

Au Revoir les Enfants (1988)

The Bicycle Thief (1949)

The Burmese Harp (1956)

Chariots of Fire (1981)

Decalogue (1988)

Dersu Uzala (1978)

Gandhi (1982)

Intolerance (1916)

It's a Wonderful Life (1946)

On the Waterfront (1954)

Open City (1945)

Schindler's List (1993)

The Seventh Seal (1956)

The Tree of Wooden Clogs (1978)

Wild Strawberries (1958)

Citizen Kane (1941)

8 1/2 (1963)

Fantasia (1940)

Grand Illusion (1937)

La Strada (1956)

The Lavender Hill Mob (1951)

The Leopard (1963)

Little Women (1933)

Metropolis (1926)

Modern Times (1936)

Napoleon (1927)

Nosferatu (1922)

Stagecoach (1939)

2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)

The Wizard of Oz (1939)

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Andrei Rublev (1969)

The Flowers of St. Francis (1950)

The Gospel According to St. Matthew (1966)

The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928)

The Sacrifice (1986)

Au Revoir les Enfants (1988)

The Bicycle Thief (1949)

Gandhi (1982)

Intolerance (1916)

It's a Wonderful Life (1946)

On the Waterfront (1954)

Schindler's List (1993)

The Seventh Seal (1956)

Wild Strawberries (1958)

Citizen Kane (1941)

8 1/2 (1963)

Grand Illusion (1937)

La Strada (1956)

The Leopard (1963)

Metropolis (1926)

Nosferatu (1922)

2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)

The Wizard of Oz (1939)

Ben-Hur (1959)

A Man for All Seasons (1966)

Therese (1986)

Chariots of Fire (1981)

It's a Wonderful Life(1946)

Schindler's List(1993)

Little Women (1933)

The Wizard of Oz(1939)

These are the ones I’ve seen. Some were very long ago and I don’t remember much. FWIW I think “Citizen Kane” is over-rated. I fell asleep.

A Man for All Seasons (1966)

Gandhi (1982)

It’s a Wonderful Life (1946)

Citizen Kane (1941)

Fantasia (1940)

Modern Times (1936)

2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)

The Wizard of Oz (1939)

[quote="uxordepp, post:4, topic:224908"]
These are the ones I've seen. Some were very long ago and I don't remember much. FWIW I think "Citizen Kane" is over-rated. I fell asleep.

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I have seen Citizen Kane at least three dozen times and can attest that it's NOT overrated. Look at the genius and artistry of this scene and tell me it's boring:

youtube.com/watch?v=HAHaRDlUrLw

Can you name any other movie that has literally every image in the frame in clear focus?

I have always liked "Metropolis" and "Nosferatu". Silent movies kick some serious behind.

I liked "Dersu Uzala" but thought Truffaut's "Wild Child" told the same story better.

Ben-Hur (1959)

The Flowers of St. Francis (1950)

A Man for All Seasons (1966)

The Mission (1986)

Monsieur Vincent (1947)

Chariots of Fire (1981)

Gandhi (1982)

It’s a Wonderful Life (1946)

On the Waterfront (1954)

Schindler’s List (1993)

Citizen Kane (1941)

Fantasia (1940)

Little Women (1933)

Stagecoach (1939)

The Wizard of Oz (1939)

I tried watching 2001: A Space Odyssey, but could never get past the introduction (boring).

MadameButterfly

This is just a mild correction, but it seems the list released by the Pontifical Commission for Social Communications was not intended to be designated as the "best films" but rather as a list of important films.

Titled simply “Some Important Films,” the list is simply a cross section of outstanding films, chosen by a committee of twelve international movie scholars appointed by the head of the pontifical commission, Archbishop John Foley. Archbishop Foley has said that the list is not intended to canonize these particular films; and, in releasing the list, the commission acknowledged, “Not all that deserve mention are included.”

decentfilms.com/articles/vaticanfilmlist.html

Only one person so far has seen The Mission? :eek: Wow! It is a great movie! Find it and watch! It is powerful! :thumbsup:

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Only one person so far has seen The Mission? :eek: Wow! It is a great movie! Find it and watch! It is powerful! :thumbsup:

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Hi Irishmom.
I agree. 'The Mission' is an excellent piece of film-making.
And 'Citizen Kane' is brilliantly timeless.
Also, I thought the Rossellini movie 'Open City' was actually titled 'Rome, Open City'?
God Bless,
Colmcille.

[quote="colmcille1, post:9, topic:224908"]
Hi Irishmom.
I agree. 'The Mission' is an excellent piece of film-making.
And 'Citizen Kane' is brilliantly timeless.
Also, I thought the Rossellini movie 'Open City' was actually titled 'Rome, Open City'?
God Bless,
Colmcille.

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Well the Italian Title is "Roma, Citta' Aperta."

Same as Bicycle Thief...in Italian it's "Ladri di bicicletta" Ladri being plural.

The Italian titles for american films are changed significantly as well

To kill a Mockingbird is called, "Il buio oltre la siepe" The darkness beyond the hedges" :shrug:

Not sure why.

Rome, Open City is notable from our point of here perhaps for these two sets of quotes:-

Major Bergman: I’ve a man who must talk before dawn and a priest who is praying for him. He’ll talk
Hartman: And if not?
Major Bergman: Ridiculous.
Hartman: And if not?
Major Bergman: Then it would mean an Italian is worth as much as a German. It would mean there is no difference in the blood of a slave race and a master race. And no reason for this war.

And

Major Bergman: Then I’ll tell you who he is. He’s subversive, he’s fought with the Reds in Spain. His life is dedicated to fighting society, religion. He is an atheist… your enemy…
Don Pietro: I am a Catholic priest. I believe that those who fight for justice and truth walk in the path of God and the paths of God are infinite

The last needs to be put into context as it occurs while Gestapo torture a resistance leader and try and make Father Pietro crack.

The Bicycle Thief is one of the most affecting and moving movies ever made, but it doesn’t pull punches and there is no happy ending. Nor could there have been, it would have destroyed the integrity of the movie.

Andrei Rublev is a great movie as well, exploring the life of the man widely considered to be the greatest painter of icons to have lived.

If I was putting a couple of others on there I’d stick Come and See as one choice, which like Andrei Rublev is a Russian movie. It’s a depiction of events in the invaded territories in the WW2 era. It however is massively disturbing and harrowing and has to be the most brutal war movie you will ever see by a long shot. But it’s never gratitious or empty Hollywood explosions and machine gun fire type violence. It’s purpose is to show the horror of war for all concerned. Which it does, more effectively than any movie I’ve seen before or since.

Ben-Hur (1959) *

The Flowers of St. Francis (1950)

A Man for All Seasons (1966)

The Mission (1986)

Au Revoir les Enfants (1988)

The Bicycle Thief (1949)

Chariots of Fire (1981)

Gandhi (1982)

It's a Wonderful Life (1946) *

On the Waterfront (1954)

Schindler's List (1993)

Fantasia (1940)

The Lavender Hill Mob (1951)

Little Women (1933)

Modern Times (1936)

Stagecoach (1939)

2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)

The Wizard of Oz (1939) *

Those marked * are films I watched at different stages of my life i.e. as a child with my parents, as a mother with my children and, as a grandmother with my grandchildren.

Ben-Hur
The Flowers of St. Francis
A Man for all Seasons
The Mission
Chariots of Fire
It's a Wonderful Life
On the Waterfront
Schindler's List
Citizen Kane
Fantasia
Little Women
Nosferatu
The Wizard of Oz

[quote="Mary_Gail_36, post:10, topic:224908"]
Well the Italian Title is "Roma, Citta' Aperta."

Same as Bicycle Thief...in Italian it's "Ladri di bicicletta" Ladri being plural.

The Italian titles for american films are changed significantly as well

To kill a Mockingbird is called, "Il buio oltre la siepe" The darkness beyond the hedges" :shrug:

Not sure why.

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Hi Mary,
Thank you for that. It's interesting also how the titles of many American movies in the past were given alternative British names. Today I suppose the English-speaking world is much more homogenised and titles don't cause too much trouble.
And true, some translations border on the absurd.
God Bless,
Colmcille.

Of the list I have seen:

A Man for All Seasons (1966)
The Mission (1986)
Therese (1986)

I can not believe that Shoes of the Fishermen (1968_ with Anthony Quinn) is not on the list, hands down my favorite movie of all time.

I am gonna go down the list and add some of them to my netflix though.

Hi all.
Kubrick's 'The Paths of Glory' is an excellent anti-war movie.
God Bless,
Colmcille.

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